Inconsistency between definitions of power and work in continuum mechanics?

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Klaus3
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The definitions of power and work in continuum mechanics are:

$$ W = \int T \cdot u dA + \int b \cdot u dV (1) $$


$$ P = \int T \cdot v dA + \int b \cdot v dV (2) $$

##u## is the displacement vector, ##v## is the velocity, ##T## is the cauchy stress tensor, ##b## is the body force ##A## is area and ##V##, volume. ##W## is work and ##P## is power

I tried to show that ## P = \frac{dW}{dt} ##, but failed

At first i thought integrating Eq (1) but i was intimidated by the amount of algebra necessary to put the derivative inside the integral, then i tried integrating Eq (2)

$$ \int Pdt = \int \int T \cdot v dAdt + \int \int b \cdot v dV dt(3) $$

Commuting the Space and time integrals and applying the definition of velocity

$$ \int Pdt = \int \int T \cdot \frac{du}{dt} dtdA + \int \int b \cdot \frac{du}{dt} dtdV (4) $$

$$ \int Pdt = \int \int T \cdot dudA + \int \int b \cdot dudV (5) $$

And here is where i'm stuck. Equation (5) doesn't seem to match with equation (1) and i don't know if there is any mistake in the derivation. Instead of ##du## it should have been ##u## in Eq (5), but a priori i don't know how to make it appear. Any clues? Thanks
 
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[tex]v=\frac{du}{dt}[/tex]
Replacing u in W to v, we get P.
 
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anuttarasammyak said:
[tex]v=\frac{du}{dt}[/tex]
Replacing u in W to v, we get P.
How? ## v = \frac{du}{dt} ## but

$$ u = \int v dt $$

Then

$$ W = \int T \cdot \left( \int v dt\right) dA + \int b \cdot \left( \int v dt\right) dV $$


$$ \frac{dW}{dt} = \frac{d}{dt} \int T \cdot \left( \int v dt\right) dA + \frac{d}{dt} \int b \cdot \left( \int v dt\right) dV $$

Now what? I don't think i can simply "cancel" the outer time derivative with the inner time integral, can i?
 
  • #4
Use the law of differential of product
[tex](ab)'=a'b+ab'[/tex]
and, if I understand the settings correctly,
[tex]\frac{dT}{dt}=\frac{db}{dt}=0[/tex]
 
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anuttarasammyak said:
Use the law of differential of product
[tex](ab)'=a'b+ab'[/tex]
and, if I understand the settings correctly,
[tex]\frac{dT}{dt}=\frac{db}{dt}=0[/tex]
##\frac{dT}{dt}## and ##\frac{db}{dt}## are generally not zero. For example, imagine ##T## is a pressure, pressure is not necessarily constant on a general process.

Also, the product rule isn't straightforward for volume and area integrals, because generally they also vary with time (which is what ends up in the reynolds transport theorem)
 
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Does your textbook, which describes the definition of W and P, postulate stationary T and b ?
 
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It does not, they just define it that way.
 

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  • #8
The latter refers the three statical equations so it seems not a general relation.
 
  • #9
I just couldn't find an explicit mention of work in the textbook (its always power), but its still the same definition found in other places, such as:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtu..._of_virtual_work_and_the_equilibrium_equation

We start by looking at the total work done by surface traction on the body going through the specified deformation:

{\displaystyle \int _{S}\mathbf {u} \cdot \mathbf {T} dS=\int _{S}\mathbf {u} \cdot {\boldsymbol {\sigma }}\cdot \mathbf {n} dS}
i know the text talks about virtual work, but this excerpt specifically deals with regular work.
 
  • #10
Klaus3 said:
The definitions of power and work in continuum mechanics are:
Who said these definitions in what conditions ? You may be haunted by a wrong idea.
 

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