Induction motor as transformer

In summary: As rotor speed approaches synchronous there's less and less relative velocity between rotor bars and stator field, so both amplitude and frequency of rotor current decrease. As you approach synchronous speed, frequency of rotor current becomes lower and lower. In an unloaded motor slip may be just 1RPM , how far is that from DC?The frequency of rotor current is very low when the rotor is unloaded. It is about one Revolution per second (RPM) from DC.
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It is observed that the stator current of IM increases on loading. In transformers, the increase in primary current due to loading is significant . Is it same in induction motor? Does the air gap affect it?
 
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cnh1995 said:
It is observed that the stator current of IM increases on loading. In transformers, the increase in primary current due to loading is significant . Is it same in induction motor? Does the air gap affect it?

The principle is basically the same, yes. Air gap will have most of its effect with the efficiency which will have effects on loading currents. To get a better idea, you could do a bunch of analysis with different loads on the transformer model and the induction motor equ. circuit model.

Here's the link to some info I found: http://myelectrical.com/notes/entryid/251/induction-motor-equivalent-circuit
 
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But in transformer, secondary flux is physically in direct opposition to the primary flux and in IM, rotor flux is circular around the rotor bars and stator flux is perpendicular to the bars. How does this weaken the stator flux? Could anyone explain with a diagram?
 
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cnh1995 said:
It is observed that the stator current of IM increases on loading. In transformers, the increase in primary current due to loading is significant . Is it same in induction motor? Does the air gap affect it?

Haven't you answered your own question here? The stator in an induction motor can be considered the primary winding of the transformer and the rotor can be considered a short circuited secondary. When the rotor comes up to synchronous speed it is almost as if the secondary has been taken out of circuit.
 
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Averagesupernova said:
Haven't you answered your own question here? The stator in an induction motor can be considered the primary winding of the transformer and the rotor can be considered a short circuited secondary. When the rotor comes up to synchronous speed it is almost as if the secondary has been taken out of circuit.
Yes, I know the transformer action,but I don't understand how it takes place in IM. In transformer, secondary flux tries to cancel out primary flux because it is physically opposite in direction to that of primary flux. So, secondary emf tries to "oppose the cause" by means of secondary flux, as per Lenz's law. On the other hand, as per my limited knowledge, IM rotor tries to oppose the cause by rotating and reducing the relative speed, thereby inducing smaller emf than that at standstill. I don't understand how rotor flux opposes the stator flux ? They are not physically in opposition. Stator flux lines are perpendicular to the rotor bars and rotor flux lines are circular around the rotor bars.
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How does this weaken the stator flux and make the stator draw more current from supply?
 
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I'm stuck again on Induction motor..In transformer, secondary flux is physically in direct opposition to the primary flux ,so it makes primary draw more current from supply. But in IM, rotor flux is circular around the rotor bars and stator flux is perpendicular to the bars. How does this try to weaken the stator flux? How does squirrel cage IM act as a transformer??
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Let us go to a simpler picture
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Remove the copper shading ring and it's still a single phase motor, just it can't self start.

Now let us simplify our thinking a LOT .

First consider it when rotor is locked.
Stator flux is vertical through the entire height of rotor.
The rotor bars in horizontal plane are a shorted secondary, so large current flows and resulting MMF opposes stator flux, just like in a transformer. Primary current goes up accordingly.
Rotor bars in vertical plane link no flux so might as well not be there.
Remember right hand rule -
Rotor MMF is vertical and opposing stator MMF, so no torque is developed.
That's why a single phase motor needs a start winding.

Now unlock rotor and give it a spin.
Rotor bars in horizontal plane now have velocity relative to stator flux
and so do rotor bars in vertical plane
so now both will have induced current.
Rotor MMF is vector sum of MMF's from both the horizontal and vertical rotor bars.
Remember right hand rule again?
One of those MMF's is vertical(from the horizontal bars) and the other is horizontal(from the vertical bars).
That sum is no longer aligned with stator MMF, so there's a net torque.. That's why you can give an induction motor a spin by hand either direction and it'll take off running that way.As rotor speed approaches synchronous there's less and less relative velocity between rotor bars and stator field, so both amplitude and frequency of rotor current decrease. As you approach synchronous speed, frequency of rotor current becomes lower and lower. In an unloaded motor slip may be just 1RPM , how far is that from DC?
So as it approaches synchronous speed, the induction motor comes to resemble more and more closely a permanent magnet (or maybe reluctance) synchronous motor.. though it never quite arrives.

That's the mental shortcut i use.
It will be re-inforced if you watch an unloaded motor run under a strobe (or fluorescent lights) .
In motors over a horsepower or two, slip is so slow one gets impatient waiting for it to accumulate a single shaft rotation.

Was that any help?
For the single phase motor presented, there's one piece of explanation missing. Care to point it out?
 
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jim hardy said:
Let us go to a simpler picture
shaded.gif

Remove the copper shading ring and it's still a single phase motor, just it can't self start.

Now let us simplify our thinking a LOT .

First consider it when rotor is locked.
Stator flux is vertical through the entire height of rotor.
The rotor bars in horizontal plane are a shorted secondary, so large current flows and resulting MMF opposes stator flux, just like in a transformer. Primary current goes up accordingly.
Rotor bars in vertical plane link no flux so might as well not be there.
Remember right hand rule -
Rotor MMF is vertical and opposing stator MMF, so no torque is developed.
That's why a single phase motor needs a start winding.

Now unlock rotor and give it a spin.
Rotor bars in horizontal plane now have velocity relative to stator flux
and so do rotor bars in vertical plane
so now both will have induced current.
Rotor MMF is vector sum of MMF's from both the horizontal and vertical rotor bars.
Remember right hand rule again?
One of those MMF's is vertical(from the horizontal bars) and the other is horizontal(from the vertical bars).
That sum is no longer aligned with stator MMF, so there's a net torque.. That's why you can give an induction motor a spin by hand either direction and it'll take off running that way.As rotor speed approaches synchronous there's less and less relative velocity between rotor bars and stator field, so both amplitude and frequency of rotor current decrease. As you approach synchronous speed, frequency of rotor current becomes lower and lower. In an unloaded motor slip may be just 1RPM , how far is that from DC?
So as it approaches synchronous speed, the induction motor comes to resemble more and more closely a permanent magnet (or maybe reluctance) synchronous motor.. though it never quite arrives.

That's the mental shortcut i use.
It will be re-inforced if you watch an unloaded motor run under a strobe (or fluorescent lights) .
In motors over a horsepower or two, slip is so slow one gets impatient waiting for it to accumulate a single shaft rotation.

Was that any help?
For the single phase motor presented, there's one piece of explanation missing. Care to point it out?
What is the role of copper shading ring? Also, I studied the RMF generation for 2 pole IM. But I can't analyse a 4 pole motor. How are 4 poles formed? How are individual fluxes oriented? For 2 pole motor, they are at 120 degrees apart physically..What about 4 pole motor?
 

Related to Induction motor as transformer

1. What is an induction motor as a transformer?

An induction motor can be used as a transformer by connecting the stator winding to the power supply and the rotor winding to the load. The rotating magnetic field created by the stator winding induces a current in the rotor winding, allowing for energy transfer between the stator and the rotor.

2. What are the advantages of using an induction motor as a transformer?

Using an induction motor as a transformer eliminates the need for a physical transformer, reducing the overall size and cost of the system. It also allows for variable voltage and frequency output, making it more versatile.

3. How does an induction motor as a transformer differ from a traditional transformer?

An induction motor as a transformer does not have a physical core or windings designed specifically for the purpose of transforming voltage. Instead, it relies on the electromechanical principles of an induction motor to transfer energy between the stator and rotor.

4. What are the limitations of using an induction motor as a transformer?

One limitation is that the output voltage and frequency may not be as precise as a traditional transformer. Additionally, an induction motor may not be suitable for high power applications as it is designed for rotation and may not be able to handle continuous load.

5. Can an induction motor be used as a step-up or step-down transformer?

Yes, an induction motor can be used as a step-up or step-down transformer by adjusting the number of turns in the stator and rotor windings. This allows for flexibility in the output voltage and frequency of the system.

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