Infinite domain to finite plate by a change of variables

In summary, the solution to the steady state heat diffusion problem on an infinite y domain involves taking a sub and solving for the limit as d goes to infinity. This results in a solution with only sinh or cosh terms, with their own Fourier coefficients. The boundary conditions are determined by breaking up the solution into two parts, and the solution can be written in the form of a Fourier series. However, the boundary conditions may be better represented by writing the solution with separate coefficients for each term.
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Dustinsfl
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Consider the following solution to the steady state heat diffusion problem on an infinite y domain.
\[
T(x, y) = \sum_{n = 1}^{\infty}c_n\exp\left(-\frac{\pi n}{\ell} y\right)
\sin\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}x\right)
\]
How does one obtain the results of finite plate by making the change of variables \(d - y\) for \(y\) and considering the linit as \(d\to\infty\)?

Making that sub we have \(\exp(-\lambda_nd)\exp(\lambda_ny)\). If we take the limit as d goes to inifinity, we get 0. Therefore, \(T(x,y) = 0\). This doesn't seem correct.
 
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Consider \(\exp(d-y) = \sinh(d-y) + \cosh(d-y)\).

Then \(\exp\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}(d-y)\right) = \sinh\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}(d-y)\right) + \cosh\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}(d-y)\right)\).
\[
T(x,y) = \sum_{n = 1}^{\infty}c_n\sin\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}x\right)\left[\sinh\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}(d-y)\right) + \cosh\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}(d-y)\right)\right]
\]
General the solution to the Laplace on a rectangle will only have sinh or cosh, but if it has both, they should have their own Fourier coefficients. I don't see away to re-write this any further though. I still don't understand the \(d\to\infty\) part.

If we break \(T\) up, we have
\[
T_1 = T(x,y) = \sum_{n = 1}^{\infty}c_n\sin\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}x\right)\sinh\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}(d-y)\right)
\]
which implies a boundary condition of \(T(x, d) = f(x)\), and
\[
T_2 = T(x,y) = \sum_{n = 1}^{\infty}c_n\sin\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}x\right)\cosh\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}(d-y)\right)
\]
which implies a boundary condition of \(T'(x, d) = g(x)\).
Is there more to say about \(T\)?

If \(d\to\infty\), we are back to the infinite domain problem.
 
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dwsmith said:
\[
T(x,y) = \sum_{n = 1}^{\infty}c_n\sin\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}x\right)\left[\sinh\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}(d-y)\right) + \cosh\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}(d-y)\right)\right]
\]
Should this have be written automatically as
\[
T(x,y) = \sum_{n = 1}^{\infty}\sin\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}x\right)\left[A_n\sinh\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}(d-y)\right) + B_n\cosh\left(\frac{\pi n}{\ell}(d-y)\right)\right]
\]
instead?

This would then make more since for the boundary conditions. We would have the first equal to say \(f(x)\) and the second would be the derivative equal to \(g(x)\).
 
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