Integral Brane World: Why $\oint (A'e^A)' dy = 0$ but $\oint e^A dy \neq 0$?

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In summary, the conversation is discussing the behavior of two integrals: \oint (A'e^A)' dy and \oint e^A dy. It is observed that while the first integral always equals zero, the second integral may not necessarily equal zero due to the explicit form of the function A(y). It is mentioned that A(y) may have a discontinuity at -\pi, 0, and \pi, and the function is defined as A=|y| for different intervals of y.
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if the extra coordinate [tex]y \in [-\pi,\pi] [/tex] with [tex] A(y)=A(y+2 \pi) [/tex] and [tex]A'[/tex] is non continuom in [tex] -\pi,0,\pi [/tex]

why

[tex] \oint (A'e^A)' dy =0 [/tex] but [tex] \oint e^A dy \neq 0 [/tex]?
 
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What is A?
 
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The first integral is a total derivative so

[tex]\oint ( A' e^A)' dy= A'(\pi) e^{A(\pi)} - A'(-\pi) e^{A(-\pi)} [/tex]

which would vanish provided

[tex] A'(\pi) = A'(-\pi) [/tex]

but you seem to imply this may not be the case?

The integral
[tex]\oint A' e^A dy= \oint ( e^A)' dy = e^{A(\pi)} - e^{A(-\pi)} =0 [/tex]

is also a total derivative and certainly does vanish due to the boundary conditions.


I see no reason for

[tex] \oint ( e^A) dy [/tex]

to vanish as its not a total derivative so it depends on the explicit form of the function [tex]A(y) [/tex].
 
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Finbar said:
The first integral is a total derivative so

[tex]\oint ( A' e^A)' dy= A'(\pi) e^{A(\pi)} - A'(-\pi) e^{A(-\pi)} [/tex]

which would vanish provided

[tex] A'(\pi) = A'(-\pi) [/tex]

but [tex] A' [/tex] is discontinuous in [tex] -\pi,0,\pi [/tex]
 
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mitchell porter said:
What is A?
[tex]A=|y|[/tex]
where
[tex]A' = 1 , y \in )0,\pi( [/tex]

[tex]A' = -1 , y \in )-\pi,0( [/tex]

[tex]A ' = undefined , y =- \pi, 0,\pi [/tex]
 
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FAQ: Integral Brane World: Why $\oint (A'e^A)' dy = 0$ but $\oint e^A dy \neq 0$?

1. Why is the integral of (A'e^A)' over dy equal to 0?

The integral of (A'e^A)' over dy is equal to 0 because it represents the derivative of the exponential function, which is always equal to the original function. This means that the integral cancels out the derivative, resulting in a value of 0.

2. Why is the integral of e^A over dy not equal to 0?

The integral of e^A over dy is not equal to 0 because it represents the integral of the original exponential function, which does not cancel out with any other function. This means that the integral will result in a non-zero value, depending on the limits of integration.

3. What is the significance of using the integral of (A'e^A)' over dy in Integral Brane World?

The integral of (A'e^A)' over dy is significant in Integral Brane World because it represents the derivative of the metric function, which is used to calculate the curvature of space-time in this theory. The value of 0 indicates a flat space-time, while a non-zero value indicates a curved space-time.

4. How does the integral of (A'e^A)' over dy relate to the concept of branes in Integral Brane World?

In Integral Brane World, branes are considered to be higher-dimensional objects that exist in a higher-dimensional space. The integral of (A'e^A)' over dy is used to calculate the higher-dimensional curvature of space-time, which is essential in understanding the behavior of branes in this theory.

5. Can the integral of (A'e^A)' over dy ever be non-zero in Integral Brane World?

Yes, the integral of (A'e^A)' over dy can be non-zero in Integral Brane World if the space-time is curved. This indicates the presence of branes and their gravitational effects in the higher-dimensional space. However, if the space-time is flat, the integral will always be equal to 0.

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