Integral: Trig Substitution for 3x^2-1

In summary, the conversation is about finding the appropriate substitution for the definite integral \int \frac{(x^3)}{(sqrt(3x^2-1))}. The participants discuss using the substitution x=a*sec(theta) and how to manipulate 3x^2 to make it look like x^2. One person suggests using hyperbolic functions or part integration, while another mentions a messy way using x= \frac{1}{\sqrt{3}} \sec \theta. Finally, they agree on using x = \frac{a}{\sqrt{b}}\sec \theta and discuss the use of hyperbolic and elliptical counterparts in formulas.
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Consider the definite integral [tex]\int \frac{(x^3)}{(sqrt(3x^2-1))}[/tex]

can someone help me find the appropriate subsitution?

i know that i will need this subsitution:

[tex]sqrt(x^2-a^2)[/tex] is equal to
[tex]x=a*sec(theta)[/tex]

well... i have to make 3x^2 look like x^2 somehow.

i tried using u-du sub, but i can't really find the right subsitution.

can someone give me a hand?
 
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The hard way:Do you handle calculus with hyperbolic functions...?

The easy way:Try part integration.

Daniel.
 
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There is also a very messy way by using

[tex]x= \frac{1}{\sqrt{3}} \sec \theta [/tex]

but it will get the job done.
 
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MathStudent said:
There is also a very messy way by using

[tex]x= \frac{1}{\sqrt{3}} \sec \theta [/tex]

but it will get the job done.

perfect! thank you

btw, how did you get [tex]x= \frac{1}{\sqrt{3}} \sec \theta [/tex] ? i have my thoughts on how you got it, but i would like to make sure.
 
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pretty standard, when you have

[tex] \sqrt{bx^2 - a^2} [/tex]

factor out the b to give you the recognizable [itex] x^2 - c^2 [/itex] form so that you have

[tex] \sqrt{b(x^2 - \frac{a^2}{b})} [/tex]

and then make the substitution

[tex] x = \frac{a}{\sqrt{b}}\sec \theta [/tex]
 
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Pretty standard with cosine hyperbolic too... :-p

Daniel.
 
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dextercioby said:
Pretty standard with cosine hyperbolic too... :-p

Daniel.
It seems like most people, when given the chance avoid the hyperbolics like the plague, I don't even think they're taught at some shools. :smile:
 
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I'd never use secant & cosecant in any of my formulas...Any neither their hyperbolic or elliptical counterparts...Actually,i've always screwed them up.
secant-------->sinus
cosecant-------cosinus

would have been much more helpful for my slow brain. :rolleyes:

Daniel.
 

FAQ: Integral: Trig Substitution for 3x^2-1

What is a "Trig Substitution"?

A trig substitution is a method used in calculus to solve integrals that involve complicated algebraic expressions, by replacing them with simpler trigonometric functions.

How do I know when to use "Trig Substitution" for an integral?

Trig substitution is generally used for integrals that involve expressions with square roots, or expressions that involve the sum or difference of squares. It can also be used for integrals involving rational functions.

How does "Trig Substitution" work for 3x^2-1?

For 3x^2-1, we can use the substitution x = (1/√3)sinθ. This will transform the integral into one that involves only trigonometric functions, which can then be solved using trigonometric identities.

Are there any tips or tricks for using "Trig Substitution"?

One tip for using trig substitution is to always choose the substitution that will make the integral as simple as possible. Additionally, it is important to carefully choose the limits of integration after making the substitution.

Can "Trig Substitution" be used for any integral?

No, trig substitution is not always applicable and there are other methods that may be more suitable for certain types of integrals. It is important to understand when and how to use trig substitution effectively.

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