Integrals of motion some more important than others?

In summary, the Mechanics of Landau Lifgarbagez discusses the importance of integrals of motion in the motion of a system. While all integrals of motion are conserved, some are more significant due to their theoretical implications. For example, linear momentum is linked to space homogeneity, angular momentum to space isotropy, and energy to time invariance. These integrals of motion play a crucial role in understanding the dynamics of a system. For a single free particle with (2s - 1) = 5 integrals of motion, the integrals are linear momentum in the x, y, and z directions, total energy, and angular momentum. It is important to note that while linear momentum has three individual components that
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I've been reading Mechanics of Landau Lifgarbagez. They state that "not all integrals of motion are of equal importance", and that "there are some whose constancy is of profound importance"...these ones are conserved for the motion.

What confuses me is that I thought that's what an integral of the motion was! A function of the phase space coordinates that was conserved for the motion! What i seeem to be reading is that integrals of motion are conserved, but some are more important because they are conserved? Can someone clarify this?

On a similar point, for a single free particle with (2s - 1) = 5 integrals of motion, with s being the degrees of freedom, what are its integrals of motion? I would reason them as:
1) Linear momentum in x direction.
2) As above for y.
3) As above for z.
4) Total energy.
5) Angular momentum.

If that is the case, the howcome the angular momentum only takes one integral of motion? Surely the angular momentum vector can be expressed in terms of its x,y and z components?

Edit: I think i just solved the last part for myself...only the TOTAL angular momentum is conserved..unlike linear, where its individual components are each conserved...is that correct?
Any input helping to clear this up for me is highly appreciated!
Thanks! :cool:
 
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I think Landau here is not saying that some integrals of motion are more important because they remain constant throughout the motion (this is valid, by definition, for any integral of motion), but that there are some such that the fact itself that they are constants is of special theoretical importance. For example, some integral of motion may be due to a particular symmetry in the lagrangian of the system (any symmetry gives rise to an integral of motion). Among them, linear momentum is linked to space homogeneity, angular momentum to space isotropy and energy to time invariance. There may be many other integrals of motion, but they may not have such an important physical interpretation. Hope it helps
 

FAQ: Integrals of motion some more important than others?

What are integrals of motion?

Integrals of motion are quantities that remain constant throughout the motion of a system, regardless of the forces acting on the system. They are derived from the equations of motion and are useful in analyzing the behavior of physical systems.

How are integrals of motion different from other physical quantities?

Integrals of motion are different from other physical quantities because they remain constant throughout the motion of a system, while other physical quantities may vary or change over time.

What is the significance of integrals of motion in physics?

Integrals of motion are significant in physics because they provide a way to simplify the analysis of complex systems. They also help to identify symmetries in physical systems and can be used to predict the behavior of a system over time.

Can integrals of motion be derived for any physical system?

Yes, integrals of motion can be derived for any physical system as long as the system follows the laws of physics and can be described by mathematical equations.

How are integrals of motion related to conservation laws?

Integrals of motion are related to conservation laws in that they represent quantities that remain constant in a system, which is a key principle of conservation laws. For example, the law of conservation of energy is closely related to the integral of motion called total energy.

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