Integrating by an other variable

In summary, the conversation is discussing a proof involving integrals and a product. The speaker is questioning the validity of a certain step in the proof and asking for clarification on why the product begins from 1 instead of 3. They also question whether or not an equality holds. The expert summarizer concludes that the proof may be missing some steps and more context is needed to determine the validity of the product starting at 1. Additionally, the equality may not hold in general but could hold in certain cases depending on the properties of the function and bounds of integration.
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Hello! (Wave)

I am looking at a proof where we have:

$$\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} |u|^{\frac{n}{n-1}} dx_1 \leq \left( \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} |Du| dy_1 \right)^{\frac{1}{n-1}} \left( \prod_{i=2}^n \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} |Du| dx_1 dy_i\right)^{\frac{1}{n-1}}$$

Integrating with respect to $x_2$ , I get the following:

$ \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} |u|^{\frac{n}{n-1}} dx_1 dx_2 \leq \left( \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} |Du| dy_1\right)^{\frac{1}{n-1}} \left( \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} |Du| dy_2\right)^{\frac{1}{n-1}} \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} \left( \prod_{i=3}^n \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} \left( \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} |Du| dy_i\right) dx_1\right)^{\frac{1}{n-1}} dx_3 $.But according to my notes, we get this:View attachment 5618But it doesn't hold that $ \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} |Du| dx_1 dy_2 = \left( \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}|Du| dy_1 \right)\left( \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}|Du| dy_2 \right)$.

Does it ?

Why does the product begin from $1$ and not from $3$? Do we just bound the product I got by the product starting from $1$?
 

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No, it does not hold that $\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} |Du| dx_1 dy_2 = \left( \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}|Du| dy_1 \right)\left( \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}|Du| dy_2 \right)$. The product begins from $1$ because the integral is taken over the entire domain, so all variables must be included in the product. Therefore, the product should start from $i=1$ and end at $i=n$.
 
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Hello! (Wave)

It looks like your proof may be missing some steps. Can you provide more context or explain how you got to this point? It's hard to say whether or not the product should start at 1 or 3 without understanding the reasoning behind it. And as for the equality, it's possible that it may not hold in general, but it could hold for certain cases depending on the properties of the function and the bounds of integration. Can you provide more information?
 

FAQ: Integrating by an other variable

What is meant by "integrating by an other variable"?

"Integrating by an other variable" refers to the process of solving an integral by changing the variable of integration. This is done by substituting the original variable with a different variable that makes the integral easier to solve.

Why is integrating by an other variable useful?

Integrating by an other variable can be useful because it can simplify the integral and make it easier to solve. It can also help to find new and interesting solutions to problems that may not be possible with the original variable.

How do you integrate by an other variable?

To integrate by an other variable, you must first identify the variable that you want to substitute. Then, use the appropriate substitution rule to replace the original variable with the new variable. Finally, solve the integral using the new variable and convert back to the original variable when necessary.

What are some common substitution rules used in integrating by an other variable?

Some common substitution rules used in integrating by an other variable include using trigonometric identities, using the inverse trigonometric functions, and using u-substitution.

Can integrating by an other variable be used in any type of integral?

Integrating by an other variable can be used in most types of integrals, but it may not always be necessary or helpful. It is important to understand when and how to use this technique effectively in order to solve integrals accurately and efficiently.

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