Integrating Sin^2: Solving for n=m & m≠n

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In summary, the conversation discusses two integrals and the conditions for which they are equal to 0 or a non-zero value. It also mentions a mathematical theme and suggests doing a sketch to better understand the concept. The conclusion is that the integral averages out to 0 when m and n are not equal, but when they are equal, the integral has a non-zero value.
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Hi guys,


I have a problem with the following integrals( the integral is between [-L,L]) :

1) ∫sin(( nπ/L )x).sin(( mπ/L )x) dx = L when m = n

and :

2) ∫sin(( nπ/L )x).sin(( mπ/L )x) dx= 0 when m ≠ n

I know that in the first equation we have :

∫sin^2(ax) dx = (x/2) - (sin2ax/4a)

but it doesn't work like that, could you please help me with it?

and for the second equation I think when m≠n then m or n should be even and one of the sin will be 0 so the integral will be 0, as in second equation. Am I right about it?

Thanks in advance.
Sophia
 
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Sophia_AI said:
I know that in the first equation we have :

∫sin^2(ax) dx = (x/2) - (sin2ax/4a)

but it doesn't work like that, could you please help me with it?

What do you mean it doesn't work like that? Isn't that completely correct?

Sophia_AI said:
and for the second equation I think when m≠n then m or n should be even and one of the sin will be 0 so the integral will be 0, as in second equation. Am I right about it?

It should work for any m and n -- perhaps integrating in parts might help.
 
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Yes, i was going to say, it does work like that.

This exercise is meant to introduce you to a very major mathematical theme.

Apart from calculations, for the case m ≠ n do a sketch of sin(( nπ/L )x) and sin(( mπ/L )x) on same fig. over nm cycles*. e.g. n = 1, m = 2 or n = 2, m = 3. Look at any value of sin(( nπ/L )x) - there are general several. Look what the value of sin(( mπ/L )x) is at that x. For every value some you will find that at some of your x points sin(( mπ/L )x) is exactly minus what it is at other such points. If you think about it you may realize this has to be. For every point. Result: this product, and hence your definite integral averages out as 0. On the other hand when n = m you have a square which is never negative so the integral is not 0 in this one case.

Very useful conclusion you will hear no end of later.*or lcm of n, m
 
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FAQ: Integrating Sin^2: Solving for n=m & m≠n

What does "integrating Sin^2" mean?

Integrating Sin^2 refers to finding the integral of the function Sin^2(x), which involves finding the area under the curve of the function.

What does "solving for n=m" mean?

Solving for n=m means finding the value of n that makes the equation n=m true. In this context, it involves finding the value of n that satisfies the equation Sin^2(x)=m.

Why is it important to integrate Sin^2 and solve for n=m?

Integrating Sin^2 and solving for n=m allows us to find the value of n that satisfies the equation and therefore helps us solve problems related to Sin^2 and its applications in various fields such as physics and engineering.

What is the difference between solving for n=m and m≠n?

Solving for n=m involves finding the value of n that makes the equation Sin^2(x)=m true, whereas solving for m≠n involves finding the values of n and m that make the equation Sin^2(x)=n not equal to m. In other words, it involves finding solutions where n and m are not equal.

What are some real-life applications of integrating Sin^2 and solving for n=m?

Integrating Sin^2 and solving for n=m have various applications in fields such as physics, engineering, and mathematics. For example, in physics, it is used to calculate the displacement, velocity, and acceleration of an object undergoing simple harmonic motion. In engineering, it is used in the design of oscillating systems such as bridges and buildings. In mathematics, it is used in Fourier analysis and signal processing.

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