Integrating substitution problem?

In summary: Not sure if this is right the order, but my past experiences with these buggers is that the exponents are usually rarely let equal u if there is an alegrbaic or trig function present .. am I right?correct! make sure you keep writing your integrand on the right side = to your workex:\frac{2}{3}\int_{0}^{5}\sec^{3}\theta d\theta = \mbox{work...}\Ok, just before I start can I just confirm this is the sensible thing to do:Yes, that's correct.
  • #36
Gib Z said:
Integration of Powers of Secant is not so difficult if you use a recursive formula. Theres also less chance of error until the last few lines, since we haven't substituted any numbers for the pro numerals yet. It's not difficult to derive the formula, it takes about 2 minutes.

I know rocophysics will like this challenge, so I the only hint I give to start is let to use integration by parts =]
I'll give it a try after my finals :-]

Gib Z said:
Once again someone ignores every other post in the thread >.<
Never!

arildno said:
I don't see why people bother with the tan substitution.

It is by far simplest to set:
[tex]t=\frac{\sqrt{2}}{3}Sinh(u)[/tex]
whereby the integrand resolves itself to [tex]\frac{2}{3}Cosh^{2}(u)=\frac{3}{4}(Cosh(2u)+1)[/tex]
I actually do hyperbolic substitutions when I'm integrating, but I think it was far more beneficial to do it the long way here to learn how important the constant is and the usefulness of trig substitution.
 
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  • #37
Hyperbolic functions eh?

Well to be honest, I'd would never even have consider them, learn something new everyday I guess.

To be honest though I much preferred the Tan method because it was fun (and annoying when I think of my integration by parts loop and not spotting the obvious i.e. Integral of Sec ^2 x equal Tan x) and it was also my first time attempting a secant to the power of .. integral.

Will also give a derivation proposed by Gibz a go over the holidays, no idea where to start though, but hopefully between now and then some sort of idea will have occurred.
 
  • #38
If you really get bored and want to become a Integrating Master (lol), do some of the problems in this thread ... I've only completed 5 of them since I don't have much spare time. Some make you just want to JUMP! :-]

How Good Am I? - https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=149706
 

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