Integration, where am i going wrong here?

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In summary, the conversation discusses finding the displacement and distance traveled from t=1 to t=3 using integration. The displacement from t=1 to t=3 is 42.38 units and the distance traveled is 43.08 units, calculated using the Pythagorean theorem. The integral gives the displacement, but to find the total distance traveled, the squared values of x and y are added and then square rooted. This method can be used for more complicated curves.
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devanlevin
given,-

[tex]\vec{a}[/tex][tex]_{x}[/tex]=6t[tex]^{2}[/tex]
[tex]\vec{a}[/tex][tex]_{y}[/tex]=-4

vector V(t=0)=0
Vector R(t=0)=0

1-the displacement from the 1st to the 3rd second
2-the distance traveled fron the 2st to 3rd second
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using integration,
Vx=[tex]\int[/tex](ax)dt=2t[tex]^{3}[/tex]
Vy=[tex]\int[/tex](ay)dt=-4t

x=[tex]\int[/tex](Vx)dt=0.5t[tex]^{4}[/tex]
y=[tex]\int[/tex](Vy)dt=-2t[tex]^{2}[/tex]

then i found r(t=1)=(0.5,-4)
and r(t=3)=(40.5,-18)

delta(r)=42.38, which is the answer to question 1
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now to find the distance traveled what i would like to do is integrate the vector V from 1 to 3, but once i get an answer for x and y, how do i connect them to get the scalar D, the distance he travelled?
 
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can i apply pythagarus with x and y values?
 
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That sounds right... the motion here is separable along x- and y-directions.
 
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sorrry, should read

then i found r(t=1)=(0.5,-2)
and r(t=3)=(40.5,-18)

delta(r)=43.08, which is the answer to question 1,
i did this by adding the sqared values of x and y and then square root on the answer, i think this gives me the displacement
 
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physics girl phd said:
That sounds right... the motion here is separable along x- and y-directions.

thats fine, but what I am looking for is the total distance travelled, not the displacemetn,,, so for example, if he traveled 10m X+, 7m X-, 20mY+,10mY-, what I am looking for is 10+7+20+10, the total travelled, not sqrt(3^2+10^2),, problem here is its a complicated curve not straightforward, x then y. how do i calculate that? won't the integral just give me the displacement? also, how do i get a single scalar value, if i know that he walked 40m on X and 16 on y is the distance travelled43.08m?/ how else can i find it other thn pythagarus
 

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