Interesting Links Between Faraday's EM Induction and EPR

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of using a magnet to produce an alternating emf in a copper rod, similar to what happens in Electron Paramagnetic Resonance. The question is raised about whether such a setup could produce more voltage than predicted by Faraday's law, and the role of copper electrons and their gyromagnetic ratio is also mentioned. Further discussion explores the design constraints and engineering considerations for this concept.
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Narayanan KR
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If observed carefully, one can find similarities between a conventional generator and a EPR (electron paramagnetic resonance) machine as described below.
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Imagine a magnet moving up and down so that its flux 'B' cuts the copper rod to produce an alternating emf, suppose if the movement is fast enough such that its frequency equals to the electron spin resonance frequency given by F = B x 2.8 Mhz per gauss, neglecting skin effect, more copper electrons will spin up and then spin down loosing their energy as EM radiation (as happens in Electron Paramagnetic Resonance), in that case if the length of the rod is chosen to match the wavelength of the emitted energy, then will such a condition lead to more voltage to be produced than what the faraday's law will predict ?
 
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Are copper electrons free?
 
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Baluncore said:
Are copper electrons free?
if they are not free then they might have a gyromagnetic ratio slightly different from that of a free electron, but rest of the process remains the same.
 
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Narayanan KR said:
... suppose if the movement is fast enough such that its frequency equals to the electron spin resonance frequency given by F = B x 2.8 Mhz per gauss, ...
Narayanan KR said:
... in that case if the length of the rod is chosen to match the wavelength of the emitted energy, ...
That would make the λ/2 dipole resonant at one particular frequency. The B field would need to be level along the entire excited dipole.

How will you synchronise the transition from Bgreat to Bfixed, over the length of the dipole. That step edge will need to be very fast, not something a moving magnet can do.

The dipole is really a resonant folded transmission line of length λ. The step will need to propagate along the dipole from one end to the other in order to synchronise the individual electron relaxation into a coherent wave.

So what if you excited only a very short section of the dipole. Would the stable B field lines need to encircle the dipole? How would the switched field that drives the relaxation be arranged?
 
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Baluncore said:
That step edge will need to be very fast, not something a moving magnet can do.
why are you worried about the engineering and design constrains instead of answering for the concept alone ? .Imagine an air cored 3 phase coil system that produces rotatory magnetic field except that the frequency is in Mhz range, now you can cut any other conductor by placing it inside the coils at ultra fast rates, the copper rod need not be half wave length but an multiple of half wave length.
 
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Narayanan KR said:
why are you worried about the engineering and design constrains instead of answering for the concept alone ?
This the Electrical Engineering forum. NOT the Classical Physics forum.

The topology must be physically possible. I think you have your fields crossed.
 

FAQ: Interesting Links Between Faraday's EM Induction and EPR

How did Faraday's electromagnetic induction relate to EPR?

Faraday's electromagnetic induction was the basis for the development of EPR (Electron Paramagnetic Resonance). Faraday's work showed that a changing magnetic field could induce an electric current, which was later applied to the study of electron spins in EPR.

What is the significance of Faraday's work in understanding EPR?

Faraday's work laid the foundation for understanding the relationship between magnetic fields and electric currents, which is crucial in the study of EPR. His discoveries also led to the development of the concept of electromagnetic fields, which is a key principle in EPR.

How does EPR use Faraday's principles?

EPR uses Faraday's principles by applying a magnetic field to a sample containing unpaired electrons. This causes the electrons to align with the magnetic field, and when a microwave frequency is applied, the electrons absorb energy and change their spin state. This change in spin state can be detected and analyzed, providing valuable information about the sample.

Can Faraday's work be applied to other areas of science besides EPR?

Yes, Faraday's work on electromagnetic induction has had a significant impact on many areas of science, including electricity and magnetism, electronics, and even modern technology such as generators and motors. His principles are also used in other scientific fields such as physics, chemistry, and engineering.

How did Faraday's work influence the development of modern physics?

Faraday's work on electromagnetic induction played a crucial role in the development of modern physics, particularly in the field of quantum mechanics. His discoveries helped pave the way for understanding the relationship between electricity, magnetism, and light, which led to the development of new theories and technologies.

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