Intermediate Math Problem of the Week 12/11/2017

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I am not sure how to prove it, but I am wondering if we could use the fact that$$\dfrac{a_{n+1}+1}{a_n} = 2+\dfrac{1}{a_n}$$to show that the product goes to 3/7. By the way, I think the limit should be$$\lim_{n\rightarrow \infty}\dfrac{a_{n+1}+1}{\prod\limits_{k=0}^{n}{a_k}}.$$In summary, this week's intermediate math problem of the week involves finding the closed form for the product ##\displaystyle\prod_{k=0}^\infty
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Let ##a_0 = \dfrac52## and ##a_k = a_{k-1}^2 - 2## for ##k \geq 1##. Compute ##\displaystyle\prod_{k=0}^\infty \left(1 - \frac{1}{a_k} \right)## in closed form.

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Ok I am not attempting to give a solution just saying two facts that may inspire other people to find solutions
Wolfram solves the recurrence relation and gives ##a_n=2^{2^n}+2^{-2^{n}}## (I am too rusty on solving this and it is a non linear recurrence which makes it harder)
As for the product wolfram says it converges rapidly to about 0.428571
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=product+from+0+to+infinity+of+(1-1/(2^(-2^n)+2^(2^n)))
Yes. This looks like ##\dfrac{3}{7}=\dfrac{2^2-1}{2^3-1}## which doesn't make it easier. ##a_n=2^{2^n}+2^{-{2^n}}## is easy to prove: ##a_{n+1}=(2^{2^n}+2^{-2^{n}})^2 -2=2^{2\cdot 2^{n}}+2 \cdot 2^{2^{n}} \cdot 2^{-2^{n}} + 2^{-2 \cdot 2^{n}} -2 = 2^{2\cdot 2^{n}} + 2^{-2 \cdot 2^{n}} = 2^{2^{n+1}}+2^{-2^{n+1}}## but this was only the fun part.
 
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I thought a bit of this problem I ended up for an expression for the product that involves ##\lim\limits_{n->\infty}\frac{a_{n+1}+1}{\prod\limits_{k=0}^{n}{a_k}}##. Any ideas how to handle this term?
 
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Though probably one needs not to solve for the recurrence equation in order to calculate the product, here is how it can be done using standard method:

assume ##a_n=x_n+\frac{1}{x_n}## ,##x_n>0## then plugging this in the recurrence relation we get ##x_n+\frac{1}{x_n}=x^2_{n-1}+\frac{1}{x^2_{n-1}} (1)##. We immediately can notice that if ##x_n=x^2_{n-1} (2)## then (1) is automatically satisfied, so by repeatedly applying (2) we get ##x_n=x_0^{2^n}##

and by ##a_0=5/2=x_0+\frac{1}{x_0}## we get ##x_0=2, x_0=\frac{1}{2}## so ##x_n=2^{2^n}## or ##x_n=2^{-2^n}## but both solutions leading to the same form for ##a_n=x_n+\frac{1}{x_n}=2^{2^n}+2^{-2^n}##.
 
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The problem seems to have sigmoid function written all over it. If you look at the closed form of ##
2^{2^n}+2^{-2^n}## it is reminiscent of the function for

##2\cosh(z) = e^{z} + e^{-z}##, and plugging in ##e^x = z## in there (which, taking advantage of positivity, can be done), except the problem uses base ##2## not ##e## for exponentiation. And if you plug ##x_n + \frac{1}{x_n}## into ##\Big(1 - \frac{1}{a_k}\Big)## you get ##\frac{(x^2 - x + 1)}{(x^2 + 1)}## for each term. The graph of this looks eerily familiar to a curious pade approximation of the hyperbolic tangent function I did a while back. In particular

##\frac{\sinh(x)}{\cosh(x)} = \tanh(x) \approx
\frac{x}{\frac{x^{2}}{\frac{x^{2}}{\frac{x^{2}}{\frac{x^{2}}{\frac{x^{2}}{11} + 9} + 7} + 5} + 3} + 1}
= \frac{21 x \left(x^{4} + 60 y^{2} + 495\right)}{x^{6} + 210 x^{4} + 4725 x^{2} + 10395}##

plotting the graphs over say ##[-100, 100]## and the similarities jump out. Note ##f(x) = \frac{(x^2 - x + 1)}{(x^2 + 1)}## is rescaled, 'flipped' (think determinant of -1) and shifted. You can also see the squaring and increment by two here. (our problem is nesting a recurrence that squares and decrements by 2... but even so.)

I think the solution is outside my reach, but the structure bugs me.
 
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What's really mean is, if you know the answer is ##\dfrac{3}{7}## and your calculation gets you ##\dfrac{4}{7}##.
And once again, a search for a missing sign and / or faulty index shift ...
 
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I get ##\frac{2}{7}\lim\limits_{n->\infty}\frac{a_{n+1}+1}{\prod\limits_{k=0}^{n}{a_k}}##. That limit seems to converges to 3/2 however I just can't find a way to prove it. Can easily see that an upper bound for that limit is 2, however the limit is not 2 its 3/2 :(.
 
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I have the same, just that I thought it is two, when it has to be 3/2.
 

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