Ionization and Nodes in the Hydrogen Wave Function

So the wavefunction is still a superposition of many energies, but instead of all of them being zero, one of them has a large value at the location of the observation.
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Jamison Lahman
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As you can see from figure 4.4 from Griffiths book on QM, the radial wave function of the hydrogen atom has clear points where ## |R_{nl} (r)|^2 = 0 ##. My question is three fold:
First, how is the electron able to traverse this region? My intuition is that with the uncertainty principle, the electron will only ever be observed at ##r \pm \Delta r## for which r satisfies ## |R_{nl} (r)|^2 = 0 ## though this is not as satisfying as I would like. Surely it would be possible (even if extraordinarily unlikely) to observe an electron at this specific point.
Second, how fast does the electron move during ionization? My initial guess was c since it is emitting/absorbing a photon, however ## v = \sqrt{\frac{2 E_k}{m_e}}=\sqrt{\frac{2 \times 13.6eV}{510eV/c^2}} \cong .008c ## which seems reasonable.
Third, is there a wave function for a transitioning electron? Perhaps ## P = \left< \psi' | Q | \psi \right>## where ##\psi'## and ##\psi## are the overall initial and final wave functions?
Thanks
 
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In those eigenstates, the electron does not move - it does not traverse anything.

Those eigenstates are only exact with a single point-like charge, an electron, and nothing else in the universe. Every external influence will disturb them and break the symmetry and the general zero-crossing.

Jamison Lahman said:
Second, how fast does the electron move during ionization?
The speed of an electron cannot be expressed as number. Changes in the wave function in the process of ionizing hydrogen might have something like 0.01 c as typical propagation speed, but I'm not sure how meaningful that is either.

You can calculate the wave function of an electron in the combination of the field from the nucleus and an external electromagnetic field. It will get a component that is still at the nucleus and a component that leaves the nucleus.
 
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mfb said:
In those eigenstates, the electron does not move - it does not traverse anything.
Could you expand a little more on this? Is this like the electron is a "cloud" and that the electron is somewhere there but not known until observed and the act of observing it alters where the node is and then the electron goes back to being a "cloud"?
The rest is clear. Thank you.
 
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Jamison Lahman said:
and that the electron is somewhere there but not known until observed
No. Without a position measurement, "the position of the electron" is a meaningless concept (apart from "it is in this atom").

If you observe the position, you get a completely new wavefunction, localized at some random point. If you then stop interacting with it, the wavefunction will spread out again, but this time in a superposition of many energy eigenstates.
 

Related to Ionization and Nodes in the Hydrogen Wave Function

1. What is ionization in the hydrogen atom?

Ionization is the process in which an electron in a hydrogen atom gains enough energy to escape from the atom's nucleus, resulting in a positively charged ion.

2. How does ionization occur in the hydrogen atom?

Ionization occurs when energy is transferred to an electron in the hydrogen atom, usually through collisions with other particles or through the absorption of photons. This added energy allows the electron to overcome the attraction of the nucleus and escape from the atom.

3. What is the relationship between ionization and the hydrogen wave function?

The hydrogen wave function describes the probability of finding an electron in a certain location around the nucleus. In the case of ionization, the electron's wave function extends to infinity, meaning that there is a non-zero probability of finding the electron very far from the nucleus. This is why ionization is more likely to occur with higher energy levels and closer to the nucleus.

4. What are nodes in the hydrogen wave function?

Nodes are points in the hydrogen wave function where the probability of finding an electron is zero. They occur at certain distances from the nucleus, depending on the energy level of the electron. These nodes are important in understanding the shape and behavior of the wave function.

5. How do nodes affect ionization in the hydrogen atom?

Nodes play a crucial role in ionization as they determine the probability of finding an electron at a certain distance from the nucleus. The closer the electron is to the nucleus, the lower the probability of ionization because there are more nodes present, making it less likely for the electron to have enough energy to escape. However, as the electron's energy level increases and the distance from the nucleus increases, the probability of ionization also increases due to the decrease in nodes.

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