IPHO classical mechanics: A mass falls on an exoplanet

In summary, the study explores the behavior of a mass falling on an exoplanet, analyzing the effects of gravitational forces and the planet's unique characteristics. It examines the parameters influencing the fall, such as the exoplanet's mass, radius, and atmospheric conditions, providing insights into the dynamics of objects in extraterrestrial environments. The findings contribute to a deeper understanding of gravitational interactions and potential implications for future exploration of exoplanets.
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TanWu
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Homework Statement
Suppose that a mass ##M## falls on a exoplanet with acceleration of gravity ##g##. The mass is released from at a height ##m## above the surface. We define the coordinate system where the mass is realised, and use a typical rectangular coordinate system that is positive upwards and to the right. That is, ##m_i = 0~\hat m##, ##\hat m > 0## upwards, and ##\hat m_{\pi/2}> 0## rightwards. When the mass ##M## falls, it acted upon my a non-conservative drag force which has the form ##\vec F_n = n(m'(t))^M \hat m## where ##M## is the mass, and ##n## is a constant. The task of this problem is to apply Newton Second Law in the ##\hat m##-direction and to use energy conservation to derive the expression for Newton II. You may assume that the coordinate system we have defined for this problem is inertial, that the mass is realised from rest and that any other drag force beside the one mentioned on this planet is negligible .
Relevant Equations
$\vec F_n = n(m'(t))^M \hat m$
Attempt:

I assume that the position of the mass ##M## after it is realised its position is given by the position vectors from the origin,

##\vec m = -m(t)~\hat m## if ##m(t) > 0##

or equivalently

##\vec m = m(t)~\hat m## if ##m(t) < 0##

Either one we can use for energy conservation (I am not too sure abou this). I identity the system as non-Conservative, and therefore, work done by the ##\vec F_n## is,

##W_n = -\int n(m'(t))^{M + 1} dt## using ##m'(t) = \frac{dm}{dt}##

Apply energy conservation in the vertical (##\hat m##) direction,

##\Delta V + \Delta K = W_n##

I choose to the ##\vec m = -m(t)~\hat m## if ##m(t) > 0## expression,

##-Mgm(t) - mgm_i + \frac{1}{2}M(m'(t))_f^2 - \frac{1}{2}M(m'(t))_i^2 = -\int n(m'(t))^{M + 1} dt##

##-Mgm(t) + \frac{1}{2}M(m'(t))_f^2 = -\int n(m'(t))^{M+1} dt##

I denote ##m_f'(t))^2## as ##m'(t)## for simplicity.

##-Mgm(t) + \frac{1}{2}M(m'(t))^2 = -\int n(m'(t))^{M+1} dt##

Then taking time derivatives of each side,

##-Mgm'(t) + Mm'(t)m''(t) = -n(m'(t))^{M + 1}##

##-Mgm'(t) + Mm'(t)m''(t) = -n(m'(t))^{M + 1}##

##m'(t)[-Mg + Mm''(t) + n(m'(t))^{M}]= 0##

##m'(t) = 0## is physically impossible or ##-Mg + Mm''(t) + n(m'(t))^{M} = 0##

##-Mg + n(m'(t))^{M} = -Mm''(t)##

However, from Newton II,

##-Mg \hat m + n(m'(t))^M \hat m = Mm''(t) \hat m##

##-Mg + n(m'(t))^M = Mm''(t)##

As you can probly see, there is a contradiction between the result from energy conservation and Newton II.

I express gratitude to the person who solves my doubt.
 
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TanWu said:
##\vec m = -m(t)~\hat m## if ##m(t) > 0##

or equivalently

##\vec m = m(t)~\hat m## if ##m(t) < 0##
You may be confusing yourself with your notation.
First, m is defined as the release height. Don’t use it as a variable. But since you have, I'll stick with that, using ##h## for the initial height.
The release point is defined as the origin. The vertical axis is defined as positive up. If at time t the vertical coordinate is m(t) then m(0)=0 and it finishes with m=-h.
##\vec m=m\hat m##. That is true whether y is positive (as a result of having been thrown upwards at the start, maybe) or negative. It does not switch to ##\vec m=-m\hat m## according to the sign of m.
TanWu said:
Either one we can use for energy conservation (I am not too sure abou this). I identity the system as non-Conservative, and therefore, work done by the ##\vec F_n## is,

##W_n = -\int n(m'(t))^{M + 1} dt## using ##m'(t) = \frac{dm}{dt}##
That cannot be right. Since m starts at zero and goes negative, ##m'<0##. That equation would make the work done by drag positive, when clearly it must be negative.
 
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TanWu said:
##\vec F_n = n(m'(t))^M \hat m## where ##M## is the mass, and ##n## is a constant
If you raise a number to some power, the power must be dimensionless (a pure number) So raising something to the power ##M##, where ##M## is mass, is wrong.

The question has other issues as well IMO. It would be interesting to know where the original question comes from.
 
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FAQ: IPHO classical mechanics: A mass falls on an exoplanet

1. What is the significance of studying a mass falling on an exoplanet in classical mechanics?

Studying a mass falling on an exoplanet helps us understand gravitational interactions in different environments, which can vary significantly from Earth. It allows scientists to explore concepts such as gravitational acceleration, surface gravity, and how these factors influence the behavior of objects in non-Earth-like conditions, thereby enhancing our understanding of physics in a broader context.

2. How does the gravitational acceleration on an exoplanet differ from that on Earth?

The gravitational acceleration on an exoplanet depends on its mass and radius. The formula for gravitational acceleration is given by \( g = \frac{G \cdot M}{r^2} \), where \( G \) is the gravitational constant, \( M \) is the mass of the exoplanet, and \( r \) is its radius. If an exoplanet has a larger mass or smaller radius than Earth, its gravitational acceleration will be greater; conversely, if it has a smaller mass or larger radius, the acceleration will be less.

3. What factors influence the time it takes for a mass to fall on an exoplanet?

The time it takes for a mass to fall on an exoplanet is influenced primarily by the gravitational acceleration of the planet and the height from which the mass is dropped. The equation of motion under constant acceleration can be used to calculate the time of fall. Additionally, atmospheric conditions, if present, can also affect the fall due to air resistance.

4. Can the presence of an atmosphere on an exoplanet affect the falling mass? If so, how?

Yes, the presence of an atmosphere can significantly affect the motion of a falling mass. Atmospheric drag can slow down the descent of the mass, leading to a terminal velocity where the force of gravity is balanced by the drag force. This effect is more pronounced for lighter objects and can vary based on the density and composition of the atmosphere.

5. How can experiments on mass falling on exoplanets be simulated on Earth?

Experiments can be simulated using vacuum chambers to eliminate air resistance and accurately measure the effects of gravity on falling objects. Additionally, computer simulations can model the gravitational conditions of various exoplanets, allowing researchers to predict outcomes based on different parameters such as mass, radius, and atmospheric properties, without the need for physical travel to those distant worlds.

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