Is a photon akin to a battle ship plowing through the foam

In summary, this theory suggests that there is a frame of reference in which there is no motion, and in this frame of reference mass couples to quantum gravity. However, this theory is still a bit fringe, and has not been proven yet.
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Is a photon akin to a battle ship plowing through the foam. not loosing
energy but imparting it, via its bow wave, maybe undetectable to date as
the disturbance would be Miniscule, I do not mean gravitational radiation,
more a damped local oscillation as the photon pushes through the foam.
 
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How does mass couples to QG? I was just thinking that, as photons do not loose energy when traveling great distances across the universe, "QG in the vacuum has no effect on them", but do they have an effect on it, a sort of reverse of gravity attracting mass. Mass attracts gravity.
So every mass pulls on gravity, as gravity is "space time", sufficient
mass will distort it, causing any mass that is near by to infall into the
distortion.
 
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May be the question is stupid, ill informed, but what the hey, no answers
is just as bad.
 
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In something approaching the standard model, everything cruises along through space frictionlessly at the speed of light until they mass starts grabbing at it through the Higgs field creating the inertia effect of mass. Thus, photons would be analogous to smooth ball bearings rolling down a fuzzy carpet hill, while every other kind of fundamental particle in space would have a higher or lower density of little velcro hooks corrosponding to the particle's mass that would slow their descent.

I can't speak to LQG, however.
 
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Higgs field hmmm.. Higgs boson anyone?

Where are they?

Garth
 
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They are hiding along with mr axoin mr graviton etc etc etc.
 
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LHC will find them or deny them, unless Tevatron, in its last gasp, does that first.
 
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These particles may or may not exist, but the question was, put another
way, is mass attractive to gravity, or gravity attractive to mass? could
mass couple to quantum gravity via a secondary action of a disturbance
caused as it travels through space time?
Akin to a particle creating a vortex that "captures" any nearby particles
creating a chain reaction.
I can not explain any better but i hope some one can understand what
i am trying to ask.
thanks for replys so far.
 
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http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0205196

I posted this in astro and cosmology, It is a similar idea to mine, it is called
No motion no gravity, it may be a bit fringe but so am i.
 
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wolram said:
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0205196

I posted this in astro and cosmology, It is a similar idea to mine, it is called
No motion no gravity, it may be a bit fringe but so am i.
'No motion' in which frame of reference may I ask?

Garth
 
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Garth if you are going to be technical i guess frames of reference are
are a moot point in this theory, as nothing is moving in one frame.
 
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Related to Is a photon akin to a battle ship plowing through the foam

1. What is a photon?

A photon is a fundamental particle that makes up light. It has no mass and travels at the speed of light.

2. How is a photon like a battle ship?

The comparison between a photon and a battle ship is often used to explain the wave-particle duality of light. Just as a battle ship plows through water and creates waves, a photon can be thought of as a wave of electromagnetic energy as it travels through space.

3. What is the "foam" being referred to in this comparison?

The "foam" represents the fabric of space-time. In the theory of relativity, space and time are interwoven and can be affected by the presence of mass or energy, much like how water can be disturbed by a moving battle ship.

4. Is this comparison scientifically accurate?

While it may be helpful in visualizing certain concepts, the comparison between a photon and a battle ship is not meant to be taken literally. The behavior and properties of a photon are still being studied and understood by scientists.

5. How does this comparison relate to quantum mechanics?

The wave-particle duality of light, which is illustrated by the comparison of a photon to a battle ship, is a fundamental concept in quantum mechanics. It highlights the fact that particles, such as photons, can exhibit both wave-like and particle-like behaviors, depending on how they are observed or measured.

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