Is a Von Neumann Universe possible in ZC without the Axiom of Choice?

In summary, the Von Neumann Universe in ZC is a mathematical concept that represents the collection of all sets in the Zermelo-Fraenkel set theory with Choice. It is constructed by taking the power set of each successive set in the hierarchy, providing a framework for understanding infinity and the hierarchy of sets. While it cannot be physically visualized, it can be represented through a diagram. However, there are limitations to the Von Neumann Universe, such as only containing sets that can be constructed within the ZC system and not addressing the existence of proper classes.
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Why in ZC (ZFC-reemplacement+separation) can´t exist Von Neumann Universet not even till \omega2. Sorry, I am new in the forum and I dont´know use Latex
 
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Thanks. Yeah, it was my question
 

FAQ: Is a Von Neumann Universe possible in ZC without the Axiom of Choice?

What is the Von Neumann Universe in ZC?

The Von Neumann Universe in ZC is a mathematical concept proposed by mathematician John von Neumann in the early 20th century. It is a theoretical construction of the collection of all sets in the Zermelo-Fraenkel set theory with Choice (ZC), which is a commonly used axiomatic system in mathematics.

How is the Von Neumann Universe constructed?

The Von Neumann Universe is constructed by starting with the empty set, and then taking the power set (the set of all subsets) of each successive set in the hierarchy. This process continues indefinitely, creating an infinite hierarchy of sets.

What is the significance of the Von Neumann Universe in ZC?

The Von Neumann Universe is significant in understanding the properties and structure of sets in ZC. It provides a framework for studying the nature of infinity and the hierarchy of sets, and it is also used in the proof of the well-ordering theorem.

Can the Von Neumann Universe be visualized?

While the Von Neumann Universe is a theoretical construct and cannot be physically visualized, it can be represented visually through a diagram called the Von Neumann hierarchy. This diagram shows the sets in the hierarchy as nodes, with arrows connecting them to their respective power sets.

Are there any limitations to the Von Neumann Universe?

There are certain limitations to the Von Neumann Universe in ZC, such as the fact that it only contains sets that can be constructed within the ZC system. It also does not include sets that are too large to be contained in the hierarchy, such as the set of all real numbers. Additionally, the Von Neumann Universe does not address the existence of sets that cannot be defined within the ZC system, known as proper classes.

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