Is Absolute Convergence Required for Evaluating Sums over Rational Numbers?

In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of evaluating sums over the set of rational numbers, with positive integers m and n as denominators. It is confirmed that this is possible for a suitable function, but the sum may depend on the ordering of the rational numbers. The use of the fundamental theorem of arithmetic and prime powers is suggested to express m and n, and it is mentioned that suitable products of primes can reproduce every positive rational. The idea of studying 'invariant-under-dilation' formulae is also briefly mentioned. Finally, the importance of absolute convergence is noted, as rearrangements of a series can affect the sum.
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it is possible to evaluate sums over the set of Rational

so [tex] \sum_{q} f(q) [/tex] with [tex] q= \frac{m}{n} [/tex] and m and n are POSITIVE integers different from 0 ??

in any case for a suitable function is possible to evaluate

[tex] \sum_{q} f(qx) [/tex] with f(0)=0 ??
 
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I would think so, as the rationals are countable.
 
  • #3
However, in some cases the sum will depend on the ordering of the rational numbers given by the one-to-one correspondence with the positive integers.
 
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um.. if i use the fundamental theorem of the arithmetic to express m and n as a product of primes could i write or consider at least series over prime or prime powers ? i mean

[tex] \sum_{m=-\infty}^{\infty}\sum_{p}f(p^{m}) [/tex]

in both case this sum is over prime and prime powers is this more or less correct ??

using suitable products of primes we can reproduce every positive rational can't we ?

so we can study 'invariant-under-dilation' formulae as follows

[tex] \sum_{m=-\infty}^{\infty}\sum_{p}f(xp^{m}) [/tex]
 
  • #5
HallsofIvy is correct: all rearrangements of a series converge to the same value if and only if the series is absolutely convergent. So that can affect the sum.
 

FAQ: Is Absolute Convergence Required for Evaluating Sums over Rational Numbers?

What is "Sum over Rational numbers m/n"?

"Sum over Rational numbers m/n" refers to a mathematical concept where the sum of all possible fractions (m/n) is calculated. This sum is infinite and is known as the Harmonic Series.

What is the formula for calculating the sum over rational numbers m/n?

The formula for calculating the sum over rational numbers m/n is 1/1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + ... + 1/n, where n is the number of terms in the series.

Is the sum over rational numbers m/n convergent or divergent?

The sum over rational numbers m/n is divergent, meaning that it does not have a finite sum. As the number of terms in the series increases, the sum will also increase without bound.

What is the significance of the sum over rational numbers m/n in mathematics?

The sum over rational numbers m/n is an important concept in mathematics as it demonstrates the concept of a divergent series. It also has applications in areas such as number theory and calculus.

Can the sum over rational numbers m/n be approximated?

Yes, the sum over rational numbers m/n can be approximated by calculating the sum up to a certain number of terms. As the number of terms increases, the approximation will become more accurate. However, the sum will never reach a finite value.

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