Is Dark Energy a Misinterpreted Phenomenon?

In summary, the conversation revolves around the concept of Dark Energy and its role in the expansion of the universe. The person involved has doubts about the existence of Dark Energy and suggests that the observed red shift in light from distant galaxies could be explained by gravitational effects rather than an expanding universe. However, the experts in the field argue that there is substantial evidence and research supporting the existence of Dark Energy and its role in the expansion of the universe. The conversation concludes by emphasizing the importance of basing theories on solid evidence and peer-reviewed research.
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I have read a number of explanation for Dark Energy. To me, it looks like the evidence has been misinterpreted. When you look very deep into space you are looking back in time to near the beginning. It makes sense that that matter will be moving away at very high velocity and as we look closer to now, the rate of recession will be slower. It looks to me there is no Dark Energy. If I'm wrong, what am I missing in the explanation for Dark Energy?
 
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What are you missing? A quantitative analysis.
 
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Your response does not help.
 
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Allan R. said:
I have read a number of explanation for Dark Energy. To me, it looks like the evidence has been misinterpreted
This suggests you haven't looked at the evidence or how it is interpreted. In a word, the effect of how far back we are looking is of course taken into account, and the result of accelerating expansion is derived by careful modelling, as you would expect professionals in the field to do.
 
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Also, there is more than one line of evidence, e.g., I suspect you have not looked at the acoustic peaks so exquisitely detailed by the Planck satellite.
 
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Allan R. said:
I have read a number of explanation for Dark Energy. To me, it looks like the evidence has been misinterpreted. When you look very deep into space you are looking back in time to near the beginning. It makes sense that that matter will be moving away at very high velocity and as we look closer to now, the rate of recession will be slower. It looks to me there is no Dark Energy. If I'm wrong, what am I missing in the explanation for Dark Energy?
"Dark Energy" is a placeholder name standing in for "we don't know WHAT the hell is causing the effects that we see". The point is that the effects, dispute your misunderstanding, are very well known and well explained. I suspect that if you go over the explanations carefully you'll eventually see your mistake in interpretation of the evidence.
 
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Allan R. said:
Your response does not help.

What he is saying is that it's not enough to just say "matter was moving apart faster in the past anyway". How much faster? How much faster in a model that does not include dark energy, as compared to a model that does? How much faster according to the actual data?

Before trying to engage in your own speculations, you should get familiar with the massive amount of effort cosmologists have already put into investigating those questions. The current cosmological model that includes dark energy is the result of that massive effort; it's not something cosmologists just came up with because they couldn't think of anything else.
 
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My hypothesis is that astrophysicsts are wrong about expanding universe.
The red shift of light from distant galaxies is not an indication that our universe is expanding.

When photons from distant galaxies travel through space passing by many galaxies,
on their way to Earth all those galaxies exert gravity pull to the photons.
As a result the photons lost energy, but photons speed is light speed, it cannot loss energy my losing speed.
The photons loss energy by red shift - (increase in wave length = reduce in frequency).
And this effect accumulate over billion of years, the further the source, the higher the degree of accumulated effect - the bigger the redshift effect.
 
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The expansion hypothesis is popular because it requires no new physics. Scientists are suckers for that. The gravitational redshift mechanism only works at the source. Intervening mass blueshifts photons as they approach, then redshifts them as they recede. Net effect is zero.
 
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Tan Hiqk Soap said:
My hypothesis is that astrophysicsts are wrong about expanding universe.
The red shift of light from distant galaxies is not an indication that our universe is expanding.

When photons from distant galaxies travel through space passing by many galaxies,
on their way to Earth all those galaxies exert gravity pull to the photons.
As a result the photons lost energy, but photons speed is light speed, it cannot loss energy my losing speed.
The photons loss energy by red shift - (increase in wave length = reduce in frequency).
And this effect accumulate over billion of years, the further the source, the higher the degree of accumulated effect - the bigger the redshift effect.
The test is not however whether the theory sounds good, but how well it accounts for observations. To see whether your theory is correct, you need to calculate the effect you mentioned and quantify it. As Chronos mentionned, the result can be quickly estimated to be zero, so your theory doesn't look promising unless you involve new physics - but then the burden is on you to justify this and make it work.
 
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The Physics Forum rules prohibit the posting of new personal theories that have not been published in an appropriate peer-reviewed journal, so threads about such theories are usually removed.

This thread has been closed but not removed because the replies do such a good job of explaining why posting new and unsupported personal theories is a bad idea.
 

FAQ: Is Dark Energy a Misinterpreted Phenomenon?

What is dark energy?

Dark energy is a theoretical form of energy that is thought to make up about 70% of the total energy in the universe. It is believed to be responsible for the observed accelerating expansion of the universe.

How do we know that dark energy exists?

Scientists have observed the effects of dark energy through various astronomical observations, such as the increasing rate of expansion of the universe, and the gravitational lensing of light from distant galaxies. These observations provide strong evidence for the existence of dark energy.

What is the difference between dark energy and dark matter?

Dark energy and dark matter are two different concepts in astrophysics. Dark energy is a hypothetical form of energy that is thought to be responsible for the accelerating expansion of the universe, while dark matter is a type of matter that is believed to make up about 27% of the universe and is responsible for the observed gravitational effects on galaxies and galaxy clusters.

How does dark energy affect the universe?

Dark energy is believed to be the dominant force driving the expansion of the universe. It counteracts the gravitational pull of matter, causing the expansion of the universe to accelerate. This means that over time, the universe will continue to expand at an increasing rate.

Can dark energy be harnessed or used as a source of energy?

At this time, there is no known way to harness or use dark energy as a source of energy. It is a theoretical concept that is still being studied and understood by scientists. However, some theories suggest that in the far future, dark energy could potentially be used for space travel or other applications.

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