Is Every Closed Subset of ##\mathbb{R}^2## the Boundary of Some Set?

In summary, the conversation discusses the question of whether every closed subset of ##\mathbb{R}^2## is the boundary of some set of ##\mathbb{R}^2##. The conversation presents examples and counterexamples, and ultimately concludes that the Cantor set is the boundary of itself, providing a sketch of the idea behind the proof.
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I'm wondering if the following is true: Every closed subset of ##\mathbb{R}^2## is the boundary of some set of ##\mathbb{R}^2##.

It seems false to me, does anybody know a good counterexample?
 
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a closed disk is not a boundary
 
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lavinia said:
a closed disk is not a boundary

Let ##A## be the closed disk, then ##A## is the boundary of ##A\cap(\mathbb{Q}\times \mathbb{Q})##.
 
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lavinia said:
a closed disk is not a boundary
The result in the OP is infact true.
 
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micromass said:
Let ##A## be the closed disk, then ##A## is the boundary of ##A\cap(\mathbb{Q}\times \mathbb{Q})##.

No. The question was a boundary of a subset of the plane. The closed disk is not a boundary of a subset of the plane.
 
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lavinia said:
No. The question was a boundary of a subset of the plane. The closed disk is not a boundary of a subset of the plane.

:confused: ##A\cap (\mathbb{Q}\times \mathbb{Q})## is a subset of the plane. ##A## is its boundary.
 
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lavinia said:
No. The question was a boundary of a subset of the plane. The closed disk is not a boundary os a subset of the plane.
Consider a closed subset of R2, A. Let B be a countable dense subset of A. B has an empty interior so A is the boundary of B. There are some details to fill in, but that sketches the idea.
 
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micromass said:
:confused: ##A\cap (\mathbb{Q}\times \mathbb{Q})## is a subset of the plane. ##A## is its boundary.

right.

So I guess the Cantor set is the boundary of itself.
 
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lavinia said:
So I guess the Cantor set is the boundary of itself.
This is correct. The Cantor set ##C## is closed, so it contains its boundary. On the other hand, ##C## contains no intervals, so if ##x \in C##, then any neighborhood of ##x## contains points not in ##C##. Therefore ##x## is a boundary point of ##C##.
 
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Awesome! Thanks a lot!
 

FAQ: Is Every Closed Subset of ##\mathbb{R}^2## the Boundary of Some Set?

What is a closed set in the plane?

A closed set in the plane is a subset of points that includes all of its limit points. This means that every point in the set is either contained within the set or is a boundary point of the set.

How are closed sets different from open sets in the plane?

Closed sets and open sets are complementary concepts. While a closed set contains all of its limit points, an open set contains none of its limit points. In other words, a set is closed if and only if its complement is open.

How are closed sets related to continuity in the plane?

In mathematics, the concept of continuity is closely tied to closed sets. A function is continuous if and only if the pre-image of every closed set is also closed. In other words, a function is continuous if it preserves the property of being a closed set.

Can a closed set in the plane be unbounded?

Yes, a closed set in the plane can be unbounded. While a set must be closed in order to contain all of its limit points, it does not have to be bounded. An unbounded closed set would extend infinitely in at least one direction.

How are closed sets used in real-world applications?

Closed sets are used in many areas of mathematics and science, including topology, analysis, and physics. They are also commonly used in computer science and engineering, particularly in the design of algorithms and data structures. In real-world applications, closed sets are used to model and analyze a wide range of systems and phenomena, from the behavior of physical particles to the flow of traffic on a highway.

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