Is it 2nd order polynomials, or 2nd order quadratics?

In summary: FALSE X) - (qx1 + 1)/q = x2In summary, the conversation revolves around defining polynomial answers and using a variable substitution to solve for the roots. The rewritten polynomial is incorrect as it does not include all the roots. The process involves dividing out the variable and manipulating the equation to solve for the "false" x. The conversation also includes a discussion about the terminology for these types of polynomials.
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Mol_Bolom
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I thought this was rather odd, and wanted to just show it to see what you all thought of it. Well, also, if anyone knows what I should read to exactly understand what I did.

1: Let's define each answer of a polynomial such as (ax + b)(cx + d) as x1 = (-b/a), x2 = (-d/c).

2: The polynomial written out is qx^2 + rx + s

3: Change the polynomial from qx^2 + rx + s to where x = s, and rewrite the problem as qS^2 + rS = S.

4: Devide S out, which leaves qS + r = 1

5: subtract r, qS + r - r = 1 - r. qS = 1 - r

6: Devide q, qS/q = (1 - r)/q. S = (1-r)/q

7: Now if the equation (q x1 + 1)/q is subtracted from S will solve for x2. Or if x1 is replaced with x2 the equation then solves for x1.
(1-r)/q - (q x1 + 1)/q = x2
(1-r)/q - (q x2 + 1)/q = x1

I did simplify this, but I still think it is rather interesting as to 'how' I did this, rather than the 'simplicity' of it.
(Darn it, I forgot what these kinds of polynomials are called. Is it 2nd order polynomials, or 2nd order quadratics?)

Thanks
 
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I just ran it through a couple of problems but it seems that in the third order...

qx3 + rx2+sx+t
(ax+b)(cx+d)(ex+f)
x1 = -b/a
x2 = -d/c
x3 = -f/e

(1-r)/q - (q x1 + 1)/q = x2 + x3
(1-r)/q - (q x2 + 1)/q = x1 + x3
(1-r)/q - (q x3 + 1)/q = x1 + x2
 
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3: Change the polynomial from qx^2 + rx + s to where x = s, and rewrite the problem as qS^2 + rS = S.
The original polynomial is 0 only at its roots. x=s is NOT a root, so your rewrite is wrong. Also you put in a sign change in the S term.
 
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Mol_Bolom said:
I thought this was rather odd, and wanted to just show it to see what you all thought of it. Well, also, if anyone knows what I should read to exactly understand what I did.

1: Let's define each answer of a polynomial such as (ax + b)(cx + d) as x1 = (-b/a), x2 = (-d/c).

2: The polynomial written out is qx^2 + rx + s

3: Change the polynomial from qx^2 + rx + s to
To what?? Isn't that a crucial part of the problem?

where x = s, and rewrite the problem as qS^2 + rS = S.

4: Devide S out, which leaves qS + r = 1

5: subtract r, qS + r - r = 1 - r. qS = 1 - r

6: Devide q, qS/q = (1 - r)/q. S = (1-r)/q

7: Now if the equation (q x1 + 1)/q is subtracted from S will solve for x2. Or if x1 is replaced with x2 the equation then solves for x1.
(1-r)/q - (q x1 + 1)/q = x2
(1-r)/q - (q x2 + 1)/q = x1

I did simplify this, but I still think it is rather interesting as to 'how' I did this, rather than the 'simplicity' of it.
(Darn it, I forgot what these kinds of polynomials are called. Is it 2nd order polynomials, or 2nd order quadratics?)

Thanks
 
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Yikes...I had thought I did a better job at explaining it, I guess not...Well back to the drawing board...

I just thought it was interesting how I came up with it...

I'll try one more time, though...


qx2 + rx = s, and 'Falsely' implying s as the value of x (Actually, I consider this change as 'False' and call the new variable formed as 'False x', however, I use s instead here)

qx2+rx = s...Making S = x (Yes, I know there is a change in the variable, that is what I find interesting)

qS2+rS = S...Deviding S out then leaves qS + r = 1.

qS = 1 - r, then divide q out.

Thus S is the 'False' x.

(Which is the reason that I started using the capital letter S instead of the lowercase s when I was expressing that in the first post. Perhaps I should have mentioned that...)

Then using the 'False' x in the equation

(FALSE X) - (qx2 + 1)/q = x1
 

FAQ: Is it 2nd order polynomials, or 2nd order quadratics?

What is the difference between 2nd order polynomials and 2nd order quadratics?

2nd order polynomials refer to mathematical expressions with a degree of 2, meaning the highest exponent is 2. These can include quadratic, linear, and constant terms. 2nd order quadratics, on the other hand, specifically refer to equations with only quadratic terms, such as ax^2 + bx + c.

How can I tell if an equation is a 2nd order polynomial or a 2nd order quadratic?

To determine if an equation is a 2nd order polynomial, check the highest exponent in the equation. If it is 2, then it is a 2nd order polynomial. To determine if an equation is a 2nd order quadratic, make sure there are only quadratic terms (ax^2) present.

Are all 2nd order polynomials also 2nd order quadratics?

No, all 2nd order quadratics are 2nd order polynomials, but not all 2nd order polynomials are 2nd order quadratics. This is because 2nd order polynomials can also include linear and constant terms.

Can 2nd order polynomials and 2nd order quadratics have the same graph?

Yes, it is possible for 2nd order polynomials and 2nd order quadratics to have the same graph. This can occur when the quadratic term in the 2nd order polynomial is the only non-zero term, making it equivalent to a 2nd order quadratic.

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2nd order polynomials and 2nd order quadratics are used in various fields such as physics, engineering, economics, and statistics to model and analyze relationships between variables. They can be used to predict and solve real-world problems, such as predicting the trajectory of a projectile or modeling the growth of a population.

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