Is it okay to treat dy/dx as a fraction when solving for derivatives?

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Treating dy/dx as a fraction is acceptable in certain contexts, particularly when simplifying expressions involving derivatives. The discussion confirms that one can manipulate dy/dx as if it were a fraction, allowing for operations like multiplication and division. Participants clarify that simplifying expressions like 1/(dy/dx) to dx/dy is valid, although it may not be a common practice. There is a note about ensuring the correct handling of signs in calculations. Overall, the conversation reassures that such manipulations do not violate any rules regarding derivatives.
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Homework Statement


Am I right to treat dy/dx as a fraction in this scenerio?

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The Attempt at a Solution




= \frac{\frac{-dy}{dx}} {(\frac{dy}{dx})^2}
= \frac{\frac{-dy}{dx}} {\frac{dy}{dx} (\frac{dy}{dx})}
= \frac{1}{\frac{dy}{dx}}

Also, would we be able to multiple out dy/dx if we had for example:

2 = \frac{1}{\frac{dy}{dx}}
2(\frac{dy}{dx}) = 1
 
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Nano-Passion said:

Homework Statement


Am I right to treat dy/dx as a fraction in this scenerio?
Sure.
Nano-Passion said:

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution




= \frac{\frac{-dy}{dx}} {(\frac{dy}{dx})^2}
= \frac{\frac{-dy}{dx}} {\frac{dy}{dx} (\frac{dy}{dx})}
= \frac{1}{\frac{dy}{dx}}
What happened to the minus sign?

Note that you can simplify 1/(dy/dx).
Nano-Passion said:
Also, would we be able to multiple out dy/dx if we had for example:

2 = \frac{1}{\frac{dy}{dx}}
2(\frac{dy}{dx}) = 1
Sure. And if the goal is to solve for dy/dx, divide both sides of the last equation by 2.
 
Mark44 said:
Sure.
What happened to the minus sign?
Simple mis-type.

Note that you can simplify 1/(dy/dx).
Like this?
=\frac{dx}{dy}

Which would read change of x with respect to y.. Hmm, I'm not used to it being like that.

=\frac{dx}{dy} = lim_{Δx→0} \frac{Δx}{Δy}
= lim_{Δx→0} \frac{Δx}{f(x+Δx) - f(x)}
= f'(y)

Is what I stated correct?

Sure. And if the goal is to solve for dy/dx, divide both sides of the last equation by 2.


Oh okay, thank you! I just wanted to make sure I wasn't violating any rules here pertaining to derivatives.
 
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Nano-Passion said:
Simple mis-type.


Like this?
=\frac{dx}{dy}

Which would read change of x with respect to y.. Hmm, I'm not used to it being like that.

=\frac{dx}{dy} = lim_{Δx→0} \frac{Δx}{Δy}
No, the limit would be as Δy→0. Here the assumption would be that x is some function of y.
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= lim_{Δx→0} \frac{Δx}{f(x+Δx) - f(x)}
= f'(y)

Is what I stated correct?




Oh okay, thank you! I just wanted to make sure I wasn't violating any rules here pertaining to derivatives.
 
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