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Strange idea for exotic matter / antigravity
I have spent quite some time on an idea I'd like to present here. Before I start, I'd like to make some points clear (due to some reactions I witnessed on other threads):
1. This theory has not been tested in any way, so I'm not trying to present it as "real" or anything, I just want to discuss it and catch some new ideas on it.
2. So far I don't even know, if this theory is of any use to present problems. I just find the image and consistency it seems to create quite appealing.
3. If you can tell me, why this theory is absolute nonsense I'd be really happy! So I can stop worrying and think about something else!
Let's get started.
The idea is simple and there have been similar approaches in the past:
I propose that by the birth of the universe two different kinds of matters were created, and I do not mean matter and antimatter (!), but matter with positive mass as we have observed so far, and an (nearly?) equal amount of exotic matter, which I will call anti-G-matter (stupid name, I know, but I wasn't able to think of anything better yet...) with the following characteristics:
- anti-G-matter has got a negative mass (the effect of which I understand as a spacetime-warp into the "opposite" direction)
- anti-G-matter attracts its own kind just the way "positive" matter does, but acts repelling to "positive" matter
- anti-G-matter (potentially) exists in the same variety of particles we were able to observe so far (which means matter as well as antimatter, and also "massless" particles like photons, etc.)
- (G-)matter and anti-G-matter are not able to "annihilate" each other or interact in any way, despite the gravitational effects.
I know, all this matter/antimatter/anti-G-matter/anti-anti-G-matter is confusing, but the real weird part is still to come:
Considerations for the structure of the universe:
-there is nothing like "empty space". All space is filled with either G-matter or anti-G-matter.
- distinct (i.e. "shaped") particles of either kind can only exist, when embedded in a surplus of the opposing matterform
which means: we live in a region of the universe where anti-G-matter (in some undefined homogenous form) is the predominate matterform, so G-matter can "condensate" to distinct particles (the way drops of oil form spheres in water, or the other way round - not the best example, but sufficient to form an image).
Consequences:
- the visible universe might only be one region where anti-G-matter (incidently ?) predominates, so stars can form and emit light we are able to
observe
- behind so far undefined areas of transition there might be regions of anti-G-galaxies or anything (I know - that doesn't sound very new...), but anti-G-photons emitted by potential anti-G-stars can't be detected by our G-matter-based technology (ha, ha, good one, ain't it? So you can't disprove it that easily. I know thought-experiments like that don't lead you anywhere, but I just like to think it through. Maybe anti-G-light isn't even able to pass the transition-zones. In fact it shouldn't be able to exist at all in our part of the universe for reasons mentioned above. At this point I have to admit, that I like the idea of http://www.ModelOfReality.org that photons don't exist at all. My homogenous anti-G-mass might be the adequate medium for their idea of pulsar-waves)
-the actual mass of our universe would be optional (we just got to measure it ) from mathematically zero to almost anything (stating that both kinds of mass were created in unequal amounts)
-the proposed expansion of the universe might just be a "solution-effect", caused by both mass-forms' tendency to repell each other. The whole universe might be trying to reach a state of balance, where both forms of mass are totally separated, which would then mean the end of time and space.
Are you still with me??
If not, I can understand.
So what do we gain by such a strange idea?
1. Beauty - I always hated gravity to be a non-dual force
2. Possibilites - This theory might explain, why there is such a discrepancy between the mass in the universe we calculated and the mass we measured.
3. Fun - I just like to develop silly ideas and discuss them with smart people with more experience in physics, who can tell me, where I am awfully wrong...
If some points where not explained properly (which is quite probable) or you have additional questions (there is a lot more to this theory I thought of, but did not post here) -> feel free to ask!
OK, I hope someone managed to read all of this crazy stuff and still likes to talk to me
I have spent quite some time on an idea I'd like to present here. Before I start, I'd like to make some points clear (due to some reactions I witnessed on other threads):
1. This theory has not been tested in any way, so I'm not trying to present it as "real" or anything, I just want to discuss it and catch some new ideas on it.
2. So far I don't even know, if this theory is of any use to present problems. I just find the image and consistency it seems to create quite appealing.
3. If you can tell me, why this theory is absolute nonsense I'd be really happy! So I can stop worrying and think about something else!
Let's get started.
The idea is simple and there have been similar approaches in the past:
I propose that by the birth of the universe two different kinds of matters were created, and I do not mean matter and antimatter (!), but matter with positive mass as we have observed so far, and an (nearly?) equal amount of exotic matter, which I will call anti-G-matter (stupid name, I know, but I wasn't able to think of anything better yet...) with the following characteristics:
- anti-G-matter has got a negative mass (the effect of which I understand as a spacetime-warp into the "opposite" direction)
- anti-G-matter attracts its own kind just the way "positive" matter does, but acts repelling to "positive" matter
- anti-G-matter (potentially) exists in the same variety of particles we were able to observe so far (which means matter as well as antimatter, and also "massless" particles like photons, etc.)
- (G-)matter and anti-G-matter are not able to "annihilate" each other or interact in any way, despite the gravitational effects.
I know, all this matter/antimatter/anti-G-matter/anti-anti-G-matter is confusing, but the real weird part is still to come:
Considerations for the structure of the universe:
-there is nothing like "empty space". All space is filled with either G-matter or anti-G-matter.
- distinct (i.e. "shaped") particles of either kind can only exist, when embedded in a surplus of the opposing matterform
which means: we live in a region of the universe where anti-G-matter (in some undefined homogenous form) is the predominate matterform, so G-matter can "condensate" to distinct particles (the way drops of oil form spheres in water, or the other way round - not the best example, but sufficient to form an image).
Consequences:
- the visible universe might only be one region where anti-G-matter (incidently ?) predominates, so stars can form and emit light we are able to
observe
- behind so far undefined areas of transition there might be regions of anti-G-galaxies or anything (I know - that doesn't sound very new...), but anti-G-photons emitted by potential anti-G-stars can't be detected by our G-matter-based technology (ha, ha, good one, ain't it? So you can't disprove it that easily. I know thought-experiments like that don't lead you anywhere, but I just like to think it through. Maybe anti-G-light isn't even able to pass the transition-zones. In fact it shouldn't be able to exist at all in our part of the universe for reasons mentioned above. At this point I have to admit, that I like the idea of http://www.ModelOfReality.org that photons don't exist at all. My homogenous anti-G-mass might be the adequate medium for their idea of pulsar-waves)
-the actual mass of our universe would be optional (we just got to measure it ) from mathematically zero to almost anything (stating that both kinds of mass were created in unequal amounts)
-the proposed expansion of the universe might just be a "solution-effect", caused by both mass-forms' tendency to repell each other. The whole universe might be trying to reach a state of balance, where both forms of mass are totally separated, which would then mean the end of time and space.
Are you still with me??
If not, I can understand.
So what do we gain by such a strange idea?
1. Beauty - I always hated gravity to be a non-dual force
2. Possibilites - This theory might explain, why there is such a discrepancy between the mass in the universe we calculated and the mass we measured.
3. Fun - I just like to develop silly ideas and discuss them with smart people with more experience in physics, who can tell me, where I am awfully wrong...
If some points where not explained properly (which is quite probable) or you have additional questions (there is a lot more to this theory I thought of, but did not post here) -> feel free to ask!
OK, I hope someone managed to read all of this crazy stuff and still likes to talk to me
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