Is Our Perception of Existence Truly Absolute?

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In summary, the conversation is about defining what is absolute. The discussion starts with the prompt to define what the speaker feels is absolute. There are various responses, including acceptance, knowledge of abstract objects, and acceptance of Absolute Vodka. The conversation also touches on the concept of potentials and tendencies, the idea that everything is a lie, and the nature of existence. Ultimately, the conversation concludes with the idea that existence and knowledge of one's own existence is absolute and irrefutable.
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in your own words, define what you feel is absolute...
 
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Vodka.
 
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Originally posted by Kerrie
in your own words, define what you feel is absolute...

Do you mean to define what it means to be absolute, or to define something that I personally believe to be absolute.
 
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Originally posted by Kerrie
in your own words, define what you feel is absolute...

Acceptance
 
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Originally posted by wuliheron
Acceptance

Acceptance of what?
 
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Originally posted by LogicalAtheist
Vodka.



Originally posted by Kerrie
in your own words, define what you feel is absolute...

Knowledge of abstract objects (mental constructs) is absolute.
 
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Originally posted by Mentat
Acceptance of what?

Acceptance of course. :0)
 
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Originally posted by wuliheron
Acceptance of course. :0)

Cool!
 
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Originally posted by Kerrie
in your own words, define what you feel is absolute...
Potentials? Where everything in between are just tendencies?
 
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absolute is what this discussion isn't
 
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Acceptance of Absolute Vodka only...

Originally posted by wuliheron
Acceptance of course. :0)
 
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Originally posted by Kerrie
in your own words, define what you feel is absolute...
Absolute abstract systems.
Originally posted by wuliheron
Acceptance
Could you, please, prove even that is absolute ?
Originally posted by LogicalAtheist
Vodka.


Live long and prosper.
 
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Originally posted by drag

Could you, please, prove even that is absolute ?

Proving that acceptance of acceptance is absolute is a personal affair. You must prove it to yourself, the finger pointing at the moon is not to be confused with the moon itself.
 
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Originally posted by Kerrie
in your own words, define what you feel is absolute...

"Everything is a lie"
 
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Originally posted by heusdens
"Everything is a lie"
Oh, do you mean propaganda? ... Absolutely!
 
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Originally posted by Kerrie
in your own words, define what you feel is absolute...

Absolute? What's that?
 
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Originally posted by heusdens
"Everything is a lie"

That's the Liar's Paradox, and makes no rational sense, but I kind of agree (on a more broad, less specific, level).
 
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Everything that is is absolute. Things often are not true in absolutely all circumstances, but things that are true are absolutely true in their circumstances. It is absolutely true that there is existence outside of myself.
 
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Concept of Time/existence is absolute.
 
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From the thread, https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2102" ...

Originally posted by wuliheron
Some materialists like to assert that all we have is human perception of existence, but when we perceive the ground of our own being it is absolute. The world may not be flat as once was thought common knowledge, but I exist and my knowledge of my existence and participation in existence is absolute and irrefutable. I can pretend otherwise, but it is just a pretense.
And the "journey" begins ...
 
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FAQ: Is Our Perception of Existence Truly Absolute?

What is the definition of absolute?

The term absolute can have different meanings depending on the context in which it is used. In science, absolute refers to a measurement or value that is independent of external factors and is considered to be true or universal. It is often used as a comparison or standard for other measurements.

How is absolute different from relative?

Absolute and relative are two different ways of measuring or describing something. Absolute refers to a value that is fixed and unchanging, while relative refers to a value that is compared to something else. For example, absolute temperature is measured in degrees Kelvin, while relative temperature is measured in degrees Celsius or Fahrenheit.

What is the importance of using absolute measurements in science?

Absolute measurements are important in science because they provide a standard or reference point for comparing and evaluating other measurements. This helps to ensure accuracy and reliability in scientific experiments and observations.

Can absolute values ever change?

In science, absolute values are considered to be constant and unchanging, as they are independent of external factors. However, as our understanding and technology advances, some absolute values may be redefined or adjusted to be more precise. For example, the speed of light was redefined in 1983 to a more precise value based on new measurements.

How is absolute used in different scientific fields?

In different scientific fields, absolute may have slightly different meanings or applications. In physics, absolute is often used to refer to fundamental constants or laws that are universal and unchanging. In chemistry, absolute is used to describe measurements of substances that are pure and not affected by impurities. In biology, absolute may refer to measurements of genetically identical individuals or standardized experiments.

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