Is Russia's Threat Being Exaggerated?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of Russia, China, and Iran forming an axis of evil and the potential threats this could pose to the US and the West. However, it is also mentioned that Russia's recent war with Georgia showcased their isolation and issues within their military and economy. The conversation also touches on the topic of nuclear security and the potential danger of rogue groups obtaining radioactive materials. The participants agree that enhancing military capabilities is not the solution, but rather improving internal security and protocols to prevent theft and smuggling of dangerous materials. Overall, the conversation highlights the complexities of international relations and the need for caution and collaboration in addressing potential threats.
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Listening to most news and radio programs, McCain after the Georgia invasion, etc, the conclusion could be reached that Russia is the USSR once again, Russia poses many threats to the US and the west, Russia and China and Iran will form an axis of evil, etc...
However, an article I read in the most recent edition of Reason magazine seems to paint a more realistic picture. For example, Russia's recent war with Georgia demonstrates, for one, Moscow's isolation (Russia could only find two states to recognize the independence of South Ossetia and Abkazia, and former Soviet allies wouldn't recognize their independence even after being offered cheap gas), and also the many problems with Russia's army, including a lack of modern weapons, fragile military vehicles, etc.
Furthermore, Russia's economy has taken a serious hit and much dissension has ensued in East Russia over tariff issues.
So what do you think?
 
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Karl G. said:
Russia and China and Iran will form an axis of evil, etc...

What is evil? What makes US 'opposite of evil'?

I am also reading about that recently
(e.g. from bbc..http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7947824.stm).
But, it's not all bad IMO.

Edit: Hilary went to Russia few weeks ago:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7930047.stm
The gift was a light-hearted reference to US Vice-President Joe Biden's recent remark that the new US administration wanted to reset ties with Russia after years of friction.

But, I don't know the outcomes or if it really had any effect.
 
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You refer to the button with the mistranslation. On Leno, there was a hilarious scene where Hillary pushed the button and a mushroom cloud appeared in the background. :)
 
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It is unfortunate and unproductive to use rhetoric such as 'axis of evil'. Russia, China and Iran, and India, Brazil, Venezuela, . . . . have competing interests, namely access to energy, minerals, etc.

Russia is trying to reassert itself, and that is quite understandable. China has been very successful economically, and plans to continue. Iran, India, et al have aspirations - and some aspirations may lead to international conflict.

It will make for interesting times ahead.
 
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The largest threat posed by Russia, IMO is that the protocols controlling their nuclear resources may not be secure enough to prevent theft, black-market sales, etc, leading to the possibility of rogue groups getting possession of some dangerous stuff. It's not just the worst-case scenario of "X group gets a bomb", but lots of other dangerous scenarios where a group gets some very nasty materials with which to construct a dirty bomb out of otherwise conventional explosives to deliver the radioactive materials. Not a lot of technical know-how is required if the "payload" materials are at-hand.
 
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turbo-1 said:
The largest threat posed by Russia, IMO is that the protocols controlling their nuclear resources may not be secure enough to prevent theft, black-market sales, etc, leading to the possibility of rogue groups getting possession of some dangerous stuff. It's not just the worst-case scenario of "X group gets a bomb", but lots of other dangerous scenarios where a group gets some very nasty materials with which to construct a dirty bomb out of otherwise conventional explosives to deliver the radioactive materials. Not a lot of technical know-how is required if the "payload" materials are at-hand.

Enhancing military capabilities should reduce this threat?
 
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turbo-1 said:
The largest threat posed by Russia, IMO is that the protocols controlling their nuclear resources may not be secure enough to prevent theft, black-market sales, etc, leading to the possibility of rogue groups getting possession of some dangerous stuff. It's not just the worst-case scenario of "X group gets a bomb", but lots of other dangerous scenarios where a group gets some very nasty materials with which to construct a dirty bomb out of otherwise conventional explosives to deliver the radioactive materials. Not a lot of technical know-how is required if the "payload" materials are at-hand.

Unfortunately security is a general problem not only with Russia, but elsewhere like Pakistan - our ally today perhaps. But then so is India and nutjobs looking to foment regional strife can tragically up the ante considerably wrt to world-wide equilibrium where ever they may be.
 
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rootX said:
Enhancing military capabilities should reduce this threat?
No. Increased security can only come from better accounting and inventory-control, and monitoring to make certain that these materials are not "going missing". Improved political and social stability in Russia can help, but not without the willingness to address weaknesses in the system that might allow these materials to be bought, stolen, smuggled, etc.

No amount of military strength can address this particular problem. Improved internal security, regular audits, and aggressive follow-up of shortfalls from previous audits are required.
 

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