Is sound affected by gravity at all?

In summary, the conversation discusses a question on the MCAT practice exam about a submarine using sonar to determine its height above the ocean floor. The answer was found using the speed of sound in water and the time it took for the wave to travel. The conversation then questions why gravity is not a factor in this problem, but it is explained that sound is a disturbance in the medium and not an object being dropped. The concept of compressibility in gases and liquids is also discussed, as well as the unique speed of sound in water at a certain depth due to a wave guide effect.
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Heisenberg52
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I'm doing some MCAT practice, and one question asks:

A submarine sends a sonar signal in a direction directly downward. It takes 2.3 seconds for the sound wave to travel from the submarine to the ocean bottom and back to the submarine. How high up from the ocean floor is the submarine? (The speed of sound in water is 1489 m/s).

The answer turned out to be about 1700 m, using simple speed x time to give 3400, and then dividing by 2. Why exactly is gravity not a factor in this problem?
 
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Heisenberg52 said:
I'm doing some MCAT practice, and one question asks:

A submarine sends a sonar signal in a direction directly downward. It takes 2.3 seconds for the sound wave to travel from the submarine to the ocean bottom and back to the submarine. How high up from the ocean floor is the submarine? (The speed of sound in water is 1489 m/s).

The answer turned out to be about 1700 m, using simple speed x time to give 3400, and then dividing by 2. Why exactly is gravity not a factor in this problem?

Why do you think gravity SHOULD be a factor? Do you think water is compressible the way a gas is?
 
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I thought it would be a factor out of habit I guess. So if the medium is a liquid, is the force of gravity negligible?
 
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Why would gravity be a factor in the speed of the sound wave? After all, sound is a disturbance which propagates through the medium, not an object which is being dropped from a height.

AFAIK, gravity doesn't affect the propagation of sound in gasses, either.
 
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Ok I see. Thank you guys so much!
 
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SteamKing said:
Why would gravity be a factor in the speed of the sound wave? After all, sound is a disturbance which propagates through the medium, not an object which is being dropped from a height.

AFAIK, gravity doesn't affect the propagation of sound in gasses, either.

I assumed that he was thinking somewhat along the lines of:

If the gravity of Earth were to increase dramatically then the density of the atmosphere at sea level would increase because of the compressibility of gas, and with a denser gas, the speed of sound would increase.

This of course doesn't work under water because water is not compressible in the way a gas is.
 
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Heisenberg52 said:
I thought it would be a factor out of habit I guess.
We normally find problems involving objects.That's the habit I guess.Here sound is a propagation of water molecules,not an object.
 
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This thread explains how sound is not directly affected by gravity but by the compression of the medium very well
 
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Interesting that in the sea there is depth (around 750m) at which the speed of sound is at a minimum. This causes a wave guide effect that increases the distance that sound travels...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOFAR_channel
 

Related to Is sound affected by gravity at all?

1. How does gravity affect sound?

Gravity does not directly affect sound. Sound is a form of energy that travels through a medium, such as air, and is not influenced by gravitational forces.

2. Can sound travel through a vacuum due to gravity?

No, sound cannot travel through a vacuum regardless of gravity. Sound waves need a medium to travel through, and in a vacuum there is no air or other material for the sound to pass through.

3. Does gravity have any impact on the speed of sound?

Yes, gravity can indirectly affect the speed of sound. The speed of sound is dependent on the density of the medium it travels through, and gravity can affect the density of the medium, such as air. This can cause slight variations in the speed of sound at different altitudes.

4. Is sound affected by gravitational waves?

No, gravitational waves do not directly affect sound. Gravitational waves are disturbances in the fabric of space-time, while sound is a mechanical wave that requires a medium to travel through.

5. Can gravity change the pitch of sound?

Yes, gravity can indirectly affect the pitch of sound. As sound travels through a medium, such as air, its frequency and wavelength can be affected by changes in the medium's density caused by gravity. This can result in a change in pitch, but it would be imperceptible to the human ear in most cases.

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