Is \sqrt{I} an Ideal of a Commutative Ring R?

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In summary, the conversation discusses how to prove that the radical of an ideal, denoted as \sqrt{I}, is also an ideal in a commutative ring R. This means that for any element x in \sqrt{I}, there exists an n \in \mathbb{N} such that x^n \in I. The conversation also touches on how to show that the sum of two elements in \sqrt{I} is also in the radical, by using the fact that both elements have powers that are in the ideal I.
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Salutations!

Homework Statement

Let R be a commutative ring and let [itex] I \subseteq R [/itex] be an ideal. Show [itex] \sqrt{I} [/itex] is an ideal of R if [itex] \sqrt{I} [/itex] is [itex] f \in R [/itex] such that there exists an [itex] n \in \mathbb{N} \mbox{ such that } f^{n} \in I [/itex].



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The Attempt at a Solution

Pick an [itex] r \in R \mbox { and } x \in \sqrt{I} [/itex]. We want to show that [itex] xr \in \sqrt{I} [/itex]. Well, this would imply that [itex] (xr)^n = x^nr^n \in I [/itex], I think this means that [itex] x^n \in I [/itex], but I am a little befuddled on how to proceed. Thanks!
 
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Yes, that is correct.
So you still need to show that [tex]x,y\in \sqrt{I}[/tex] implies that x+y is also in the radical.
There exists n and m such that [tex]x^n\in I[/tex] and [tex]x^m\in I[/tex]. Now try to show that [tex](x+y)^{n+m}\in I[/tex].
 
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Thanks micromass! So everything above is correct? I'm still not really sure how I see that [itex] xr \in \sqrt{I} [/itex] though. Is it because both [itex] r^n \mbox{ and } x^n [/itex] are in radical I? I know showing the summation will be fun... all the terms will be in the ideal I, I think and the union of a bunch of ideals is still an ideal
 
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Well, since [tex]x^n\in I[/tex] (by definition, since [tex]x\in \sqrt{I}[/tex]), we got that [tex]r^nx^n\in I[/tex] (since arbitrary multiplication preserves elements in I).
 
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ohhhhh-gotcha! Thanks, I appreciate it. I'm sure I'll be back later after trying the second part. Thanks again!
 

FAQ: Is \sqrt{I} an Ideal of a Commutative Ring R?

What does it mean to have an ideal in science?

In science, an ideal is a theoretical concept that represents a perfect or idealized version of something. It serves as a reference point for comparison to real-world observations or data.

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Scientists can demonstrate that they have an ideal by using mathematical models or theories to explain and predict natural phenomena. These models are tested through experiments and observations to see how closely they match with real-world data.

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Having an ideal in science allows scientists to simplify complex systems and understand the fundamental principles behind them. It also provides a framework for making predictions and developing new technologies.

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