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Hello,
In CFD computation of the Navier-Stokes Equation, is stress tensor assumed to be symmetric?
We know that in NS equation only linear momentum is considered, and the general form of NS equation does not assume that stress tensor is symmetric. Physically, if the tensor is asymmetric then there is torque on the microscopic volume m, and within its streamline in general it is subjected to the influence of:
I think this understand is basically correct regarding torque: visualize a crowed square in which thousands of people, shoulder-to-shoulder, are moving toward a same direction (for example pilgrims in Mecca), then each body is subjected to torque from the neighbor, and in general he will not always orient toward the same direction during his course along the streamline. The orientation change is therefore due to the angular a above, and his movement can always be decomposed into
And although in general is a present, the accumulated mr⋅v(rotational) is small because temporarily (time) microscopically, and individual “rotation” not in-phase/aligned with its neighbors increases stress which soon acts to decelerate that.
However, if many places I read that the symmetry of stress is assumed, such as with Rutherford Aris’s Vectors, Tensors, and the Basic Equations of Fluid Mechanics pp102, in section 6.41 and he also used a somewhat questionable term “polar fluid” to refer to fluid with torque/asymmetric stress.
I would like to know that in popular CFD packages Fluent, CFX , FloEFD and Solidworks Flow Simulation, is stress tensor assumed to be symmetric or not? I wonder if they do assume symmetric, then for viscous fluid symmetric shear stress implies a symmetric velocity field which is unrealistic for example for swirls, so the software will fail.
I also read that the time-averaged Reynolds Stress in RANS (Reynolds-averaged Navier–Stokes equations) is probably symmetric, and is used for steady-state solutions. However, there are situations where particle/parcel rotation is involved, particularly in cases where convection is heavy like for combustion. Therefore, any assumption of symmetric stress tensor might seem to be an unrealistic oversimplification.
Because, even for steady-state flow, particles (or larger "parcel"s) still flow and most likely change orientation (the pilgrim queue can reach steady state, but people sitll chang orientation along the streamline). So what makes the symmetric stress tensor assumption valid?
I just started learning this subject for a few days so the question might seem very basic to experienced users. Sincerely hope someone could resolve my puzzle!
Andy
In CFD computation of the Navier-Stokes Equation, is stress tensor assumed to be symmetric?
We know that in NS equation only linear momentum is considered, and the general form of NS equation does not assume that stress tensor is symmetric. Physically, if the tensor is asymmetric then there is torque on the microscopic volume m, and within its streamline in general it is subjected to the influence of:
- gravity
- normal stress
- shear force ⇒ torque ⇒ angular acceleration mra (r assumed to be mean radius of m)
I think this understand is basically correct regarding torque: visualize a crowed square in which thousands of people, shoulder-to-shoulder, are moving toward a same direction (for example pilgrims in Mecca), then each body is subjected to torque from the neighbor, and in general he will not always orient toward the same direction during his course along the streamline. The orientation change is therefore due to the angular a above, and his movement can always be decomposed into
- linear translation ⇐ normal stress
- rotation about his own axis ⇐ torque
And although in general is a present, the accumulated mr⋅v(rotational) is small because temporarily (time) microscopically, and individual “rotation” not in-phase/aligned with its neighbors increases stress which soon acts to decelerate that.
However, if many places I read that the symmetry of stress is assumed, such as with Rutherford Aris’s Vectors, Tensors, and the Basic Equations of Fluid Mechanics pp102, in section 6.41 and he also used a somewhat questionable term “polar fluid” to refer to fluid with torque/asymmetric stress.
I would like to know that in popular CFD packages Fluent, CFX , FloEFD and Solidworks Flow Simulation, is stress tensor assumed to be symmetric or not? I wonder if they do assume symmetric, then for viscous fluid symmetric shear stress implies a symmetric velocity field which is unrealistic for example for swirls, so the software will fail.
I also read that the time-averaged Reynolds Stress in RANS (Reynolds-averaged Navier–Stokes equations) is probably symmetric, and is used for steady-state solutions. However, there are situations where particle/parcel rotation is involved, particularly in cases where convection is heavy like for combustion. Therefore, any assumption of symmetric stress tensor might seem to be an unrealistic oversimplification.
Because, even for steady-state flow, particles (or larger "parcel"s) still flow and most likely change orientation (the pilgrim queue can reach steady state, but people sitll chang orientation along the streamline). So what makes the symmetric stress tensor assumption valid?
I just started learning this subject for a few days so the question might seem very basic to experienced users. Sincerely hope someone could resolve my puzzle!
Andy
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