Is the Direction of Magnetic Fields Truly Conventional?

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Based on what theory do they mark the magnetic field from north to south?
In many books, the direction of the magnetic field is mentioned as north to south. It says they have marked it because the north pole of the compass faces to south. But why can't we say the direction is the opposite of it as the south also attracts to north? When I browsed answers, most replies were saying it was conventional. Then exactly what could be the direction of the magnetic field? Actually, is there a direction at all? Can it be call a vector quantity
 
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pgirl1729 said:
But why can't we say the direction is the opposite of it as the south also attracts to north?
You can. But then you have to remind everyone you communicate with that you're using the opposite sign convention to everyone else. And you have to work out where to put the minus signs in the maths because you've defined one vector as minus the usual definition.
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Actually, is there a direction at all? Can it be call a vector quantity
Yes, the magnetic field is a vector field, yes it has a direction.
 
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How would you prove it has a direction? In displacement, the direction can be determined by seeing the motion.
 
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How would one prove it has a direction?
Predict an effect based on assuming it's a vector (e.g., that electronics work) then test it (they do).
 
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The magnetic field exerts a force on a moving charge. That force obviously has a direction.
 
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Ibix said:
Predict an effect based on assuming it's a vector (e.g., that electronics work) then test it (they do).
That helped. Thank you!
 
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pgirl1729 said:
TL;DR Summary: Based on what theory do they mark the magnetic field from north to south?

Then exactly what could be the direction of the magnetic field? Actually, is there a direction at all? Can it be call a vector quantity
As @Ibix said, the direction is a matter of convention. We have written all of our formulas with the right hand rule convention such that the field vectors point out of a north pole and into a south pole. We could instead use a left hand rule and the field vectors would point out of a south pole and into a north pole.

Technically, objects that behave this way are not actually vectors. Instead they are called pseudo-vectors. In 3 dimensions they behave a lot like actual vectors, except that under certain transformations of the coordinates they get flipped.
 
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Related to Is the Direction of Magnetic Fields Truly Conventional?

1. What does it mean for the direction of magnetic fields to be conventional?

The direction of magnetic fields being conventional means that it is based on an agreed-upon standard rather than an inherent physical property. The convention is that magnetic field lines emerge from the north pole of a magnet and enter the south pole. This is a human-made standard to ensure consistency in scientific communication and measurements.

2. Why is the direction of magnetic fields defined from north to south?

The direction of magnetic fields is defined from north to south based on historical context. Early scientists, including William Gilbert, who studied magnetism, observed that the north-seeking pole of a compass (which points towards the Earth's geographic north) aligns with one end of a magnet. They established the convention that magnetic field lines flow from the north-seeking pole (north pole) to the south-seeking pole (south pole) to maintain consistency in scientific studies and applications.

3. Is the conventional direction of magnetic fields arbitrary?

Yes, the conventional direction of magnetic fields is somewhat arbitrary. It was chosen based on early observations and has been maintained for consistency. The physical phenomena of magnetism would still function the same way regardless of the chosen convention; however, having a standard direction helps in comparing and communicating scientific results effectively.

4. How does the conventional direction of magnetic fields affect scientific equations and calculations?

The conventional direction of magnetic fields affects scientific equations and calculations by providing a consistent framework for describing magnetic phenomena. For example, in the right-hand rule used in electromagnetism, the direction of the magnetic field is crucial for determining the direction of induced currents or forces. Without a standard convention, these calculations could become confusing and inconsistent.

5. Can the direction of magnetic fields be reversed in scientific notation?

In theory, the direction of magnetic fields could be reversed in scientific notation, but this would require redefining many established conventions and equations. The current convention is deeply integrated into scientific literature, educational materials, and practical applications, making such a reversal impractical. The existing convention provides a reliable and universally understood framework for studying and applying magnetic principles.

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