Is the Frictional Force on a Block Pushed Against a Wall 4.9N or 7.2N?

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So the friction force is simply 12N times the coefficient of static friction. (12N*.6=7.2N)In summary, a 0.5-kg block is pushed against a vertical wall with a horizontal force of 12 N. The block is at rest and the coefficients of static and kinetic friction are given. The normal force is calculated to be 4.9 N, but the correct answer is (b) 7.2 N, as the friction force is determined by the horizontal force of 12 N and the coefficient of static friction. In this scenario, the block is not moving and therefore cannot accelerate or decelerate. Therefore, the correct answer is (b) The frictional force
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Homework Statement


A horizontal force of 12 N pushes a 0.5-kg block against a vertical wall. The block is initially at rest. If us = 0.6 and uk = 0.8, which of the following is true?
(a) The frictional force is 4.9N
(b) The frictional force is 7.2N
(c) The normal force is 4.9
(d) The block will start moving and accelerate
(e) If started moving downward, the block will decelerate

Homework Equations


fk = UkN
N = mg

The Attempt at a Solution


N = 0.5kg * 9.8m/s2 = 4.9

I marked down the answer as C, but I was wrong...
 
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I think the friction is related only to the 12N and not to the mg component.
So the reaction force at the wall is equal to 12N.
12*us=7.2N (b)
and we can disprove (d) and (e) by stating 0.5*9.81=4.9N
The mass of the block is not great enough to overcome friction.

Short answer: (b)
 
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I'm still having a hard time understanding how you knew it was B.
 
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1. The normal force is the force of the wall perpendicular to the block.
2. The friction force between the wall and block, which is u_k(N) if the block moves, or less than or equal to u_s(N) if it doesn't move, acts parallel to the wall , upward.
3. The weight of the block acts parallel to the wall, downward.

So the correct answer is________________??
 
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ahh so the Normal force is actually 12 N (horizontal).
The frictional force is then 12*.6 = 7.2

And like craigman proved, the block is not moving, so it can't be D or E.

Makes sense. So the answer is B.

thanks
 
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hansel13 said:
ahh so the Normal force is actually 12 N (horizontal).
The frictional force is then 12*.6 = 7.2

And like craigman proved, the block is not moving, so it can't be D or E.

Makes sense. So the answer is B.

thanks
But what's the weight of the block? If the block is not moving, what must the friction force be?
 
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PhanthomJay said:
But what's the weight of the block? If the block is not moving, what must the friction force be?

The weight is 0.5kg, no?

If the block is not moving, the frictional force (7.2 N) must be than F = m * a = .5 * 9.8 = 4.9... Which it appears to be.
 
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hansel13 said:
The weight is 0.5kg, no?
that's the mass, the weight is 4.9N
If the block is not moving, the frictional force (7.2 N) must be than F = m * a = .5 * 9.8 = 4.9... Which it appears to be.
I'm not sure if you answered the question. The weight down is 4.9N, and the block is not moving. Thus the friction force acting up, in accord with Newton 1, must be equal to ________________??
 
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Well then the friction force must be 4.9 as well. So A.
 
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hansel13 said:
Well then the friction force must be 4.9 as well. So A.

Yes. A common oversight is to assume that F_f(static) = u_s(N), but that is its maximum value, only true when the block is just on the verge of moving with respect to the surface it is in contact with. Otherwise , in general, F_f is less than or equal to u_s(N). For dynamic or kinetic friction, F_f(kinetic) = u_k(N), always.
 
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If the block were in contact with the ground and not the wall, the friction force would be calculated by 9.81*0.5*u=friction force.
In this case gravity does not actually push the block into the wall and the force of m*g is acting perpandicular to the wall, which means only the horizontal force of 12N is acting to be a multiplier in the friction equation.
 

FAQ: Is the Frictional Force on a Block Pushed Against a Wall 4.9N or 7.2N?

How does a block pushed up against a wall stay in place?

When a block is pushed up against a wall, the force of friction between the block and the wall prevents it from sliding or falling. This is because the wall exerts an equal and opposite force on the block, known as the normal force, which counteracts the force of gravity pulling the block down. As long as the frictional force is greater than the force of gravity, the block will stay in place.

What happens to the block when it is pushed up against a wall with a greater force than the frictional force?

If the force pushing the block against the wall is greater than the force of friction, the block will begin to slide down the wall. This is because the frictional force is no longer strong enough to counteract the force of gravity and the block's weight. The amount of force needed to overcome friction and cause movement is known as the coefficient of static friction.

Can a block pushed up against a wall move horizontally?

Yes, a block pushed up against a wall can move horizontally. This is because the wall only provides support in the vertical direction, and the block can still slide or be pushed in the horizontal direction. However, the frictional force between the block and the wall will make it more difficult to move the block horizontally.

Does the material of the block or wall affect how it stays in place?

Yes, the material of the block and wall can affect how the block stays in place. Different materials have different coefficients of friction, which determine how much force is needed to overcome the frictional force and cause movement. For example, a block made of rubber may have a greater coefficient of friction with a wall than a block made of plastic, making it harder to push or slide.

Is there a limit to how high a block can be pushed up against a wall before it falls?

Yes, there is a limit to how high a block can be pushed up against a wall before it falls. This is determined by the angle of the wall and the coefficient of friction between the block and the wall. As the block is pushed higher, the force of gravity pulling it down increases, and the normal force exerted by the wall decreases. If the angle of the wall is too steep or the coefficient of friction is too low, the block will eventually reach a point where the force of gravity overcomes the normal force and the block falls.

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