Is the Longer Path Quicker in Physics?

In summary, "Is the Longer Path Quicker in Physics?" explores the concept of whether taking a longer route can lead to a faster outcome in physical systems. It examines scenarios in which particles or waves, influenced by various forces, may take unexpected paths that result in shorter travel times despite their increased distance. The discussion delves into principles of physics such as the variational principle and wave-particle duality, highlighting how optimal paths can sometimes defy intuitive expectations.
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So, I'm well out of date from my engineering education, but can this be true? I don't think so. Conservation of energy, but I'd appreciate an expert opinion.
It's just a link,

Unreal?

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Well, I mean it is fake. It's CGI.
But it might not be false.

I've seen the brachistochrone curve demonstrated, so I know the principle is sound.
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But I don't know for sure that the configuration in your link - with its multiple, smooth peaks - is real. I've never seen a multi-peak demonstration. I am skeptical.
I would not take the word of that video.
 
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IMO, the image might be CGI, but the phenomenon is real. The faster ball appears to be traveling along multiple brachistochrone curves.
 
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Heree are two examples of this phenomenon! Isn't physics weird??


 
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valenumr said:
I think only the velocity has to be equal at the end.
Exactly, final speed must be equal, not average speed.
 
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Heree are two examples of this phenomenon! Isn't physics weird??



Oh, I remember this things, at physics classes, we tried to model such an experiment, which was interesting. I still remember how our professor said: "For those who do not study physics, natural things can be magic"
 

FAQ: Is the Longer Path Quicker in Physics?

1. What does "the longer path is quicker" mean in physics?

The phrase "the longer path is quicker" often refers to scenarios in physics where a particle or wave takes a longer route that results in a shorter travel time due to varying speeds in different mediums or paths. This concept is particularly relevant in optics and wave mechanics, where light can take different paths to reach the same destination, and the path that appears longer can sometimes be faster due to the properties of the medium.

2. Can you provide an example of this phenomenon?

A classic example is light traveling through different media, such as air and water. When light passes from air into water, it slows down. If there are two paths—one through air and a shorter one through water—the longer path through air may allow the light to arrive at the destination faster than the shorter path through water, illustrating that the longer path can indeed be quicker.

3. How does this concept relate to Fermat's principle of least time?

Fermat's principle of least time states that light will travel between two points along the path that takes the least time, not necessarily the shortest distance. This principle underpins the idea that the longer path may be quicker if it allows the light to travel through a medium where it moves faster, demonstrating that time, rather than distance, is the critical factor in these scenarios.

4. Are there other fields in physics where this idea applies?

Yes, this concept is not limited to optics. It also applies in fields like quantum mechanics, where particles can take multiple paths simultaneously, and the path that contributes most to the probability amplitude may be longer but quicker. Additionally, it can be seen in classical mechanics, such as in the analysis of trajectories and motion where forces and resistances affect the speed of travel along different routes.

5. Does this principle have practical applications?

Yes, the principle of the longer path being quicker has practical applications in various fields, including telecommunications and fiber optics, where the design of pathways for signals can optimize speed and efficiency. It is also relevant in engineering and architecture, where the layout of structures and materials can influence the speed of heat transfer or fluid flow, leading to more efficient designs.

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