Is there a 'decision time' for quantum states to become fixed?

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of time and how it relates to interactions and observations in the universe, particularly in quantum situations such as Schroedinger's cat. It is suggested that real time measurements are necessary to determine the state of the cat, and that the collapse of the wave function is instantaneous. However, there is debate about whether this violates relativity.
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BernieM
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I have posted several other silly questions on these forums before, but am hoping this one isn't.

It occurred to me in a real way the other day that I am not interacting with the rest of the universe 'now', as in the absolutely present moment in time. That due to the speed of light restriction in the universe, all that I observe and interact with is 'in the past' measured in my reference frame of time.

When it comes to quantum situations such as schroedinger's cat, where the cat is both dead and alive until its observed, when such an observation does occur, is the state instantaneously set (dead or alive) or is there a 'decision time' for the cat to go from the limbo state to a fixed state due to the fact that nothing (at least I believe) should happen absolutely instantanously?

In other words does the state of the cat become set at the SAME moment in time in reference to the observer AND the cat?
 
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When the cat is said to be dead or alive, it really is taken as a real time phenomenon. At that moment, the cat truly is dead or alive according to this way of thinking, until a real time measurement is performed on the cat to ascertain whether it exists in the dead state or the alive state.

Real time measurement just means in this sense, until you perform that observation on the cat, the cat is in a superpositioning of states. Then when the act of measurement takes place, the system is pulled out of the superpositining, or atleast, this is what schrodingers cat says.

The fact you can pull the cat out of superpositioning instantaneously with the act of a measurement, just means that. A state of the cat is evaluated in real time. Real time measurements are things we do.
 
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In particle wave duality, when a particle's position is measured the wave function collapses. Is this collapse 'instantaneous' or does it take some fleeting moment of time?
 
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BernieM said:
In particle wave duality, when a particle's position is measured the wave function collapses. Is this collapse 'instantaneous' or does it take some fleeting moment of time?

Completely instantaneous.
 
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BernieM said:
In particle wave duality, when a particle's position is measured the wave function collapses. Is this collapse 'instantaneous' or does it take some fleeting moment of time?

Completely instantaneous, violating relativity in doing so BTW, but without observable violations of relativistic causality if the underlying quantum dynamics is relativistically invariant.
It is one of the main critics on the collapse as a physical phenomenon which fuel the interpretation debates.

In *practice* it works.
 

FAQ: Is there a 'decision time' for quantum states to become fixed?

What is "quantum decision time"?

"Quantum decision time" refers to the amount of time it takes for a quantum system to make a decision or reach a state of stability.

How is quantum decision time different from classical decision time?

Quantum decision time is different from classical decision time because it takes into account the probabilistic nature of quantum systems. In classical systems, decisions are made based on deterministic rules, while in quantum systems, decisions are made based on probability amplitudes.

What factors affect quantum decision time?

Quantum decision time can be affected by a variety of factors, including the complexity of the system, the strength of the interactions between particles, and the level of decoherence (loss of quantum coherence) in the system.

How is quantum decision time measured?

Quantum decision time can be measured using various tools and techniques, such as quantum state tomography or quantum interferometry. These methods involve manipulating and measuring the quantum system in order to determine the time it takes to make a decision.

What are the potential applications of understanding quantum decision time?

Understanding quantum decision time can have implications in various fields such as quantum computing, quantum communication, and quantum sensing. It can also lead to a better understanding of quantum mechanics and potentially help in the development of new technologies and materials.

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