Is This Integral Divergent as t Approaches Infinity?

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In summary, the conversation discusses various calculus problems and the steps to solve them. The first problem involves graphing and using the washer method to find the volume of an arbitrary element. The second problem involves integration by parts. The third problem involves finding the area under a curve using an improper integral. The fourth problem involves finding the definite integral of a function and determining if it converges. The conversation also mentions the importance of neatly showing work when solving these problems.
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I have 48 hours and i am bad, i am sorry but i want to understand how it is

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Hello, and welcome to MHB! :)

In the future please make a thread for each problem so the resulting discussion doesn't become convoluted.

1.) I would begin by graphing \(\bf R\):

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I would use the washer method here for the volume of an arbitrary element:

\(\displaystyle dV=\pi(R^2-r^2)\,dx\)

Can you identify the outer radius \(R\) and the inner radius \(r\) of the arbitrary washer above?
 
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Mark, this does look like a test. I'd wait for the 48h before replying.
 
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Thanks, now I have a solution. So iis that true?

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Continuing where I left off, we have:

\(\displaystyle dV=\pi((1+\sin(x))^2-(1)^2)\,dx=\pi(\sin^2(x)+2\sin(x))\dx\)

Using a double-angle identiy for cosine: we may state:

\(\displaystyle \cos(2x)=1-2\sin^2(x)\implies \sin^2(x)=\frac{1-\cos(2x)}{2}\)

And so we may write:

\(\displaystyle dV=\frac{\pi}{2}(4\sin(x)-\cos(2x)+1)\,dx\)

Hence, adding up all the washers, we find:

\(\displaystyle V=\frac{\pi}{2}\int_0^{\pi} 4\sin(x)-\cos(2x)+1\,dx\)

Let's let:

\(\displaystyle u=x-\frac{\pi}{2}\implies du=dx\)

\(\displaystyle V=\frac{\pi}{2}\int_{-\frac{\pi}{2}}^{\frac{\pi}{2}} 4\cos(u)+\cos(2x)+1\,dx\)

Using the even-function rule, we have:

\(\displaystyle V=\pi\int_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{2}} 4\cos(u)+\cos(2x)+1\,dx=\pi\left[4\sin(u)+\frac{1}{2}\sin(2u)+u\right]_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{2}}=\pi\left(4+\frac{\pi}{2}\right)=\frac{\pi}{2}(8+\pi)\)

It looks like you were on the right track, but you neglected to distribute \(\pi\) to your additional integral.

For the second problem, it looks like you are using integration by parts, but your work is hard to read. I'll let someone else jump into help with that. :)
 
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Thanks, This is question 5, can you write me?
 
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Is this solution true?
 
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Regarding question 3, ln(1) = 0, so you need to find −∫10ln(x)dx−∫01ln⁡(x)dx.
An indefinite integral is xln(x)−xxln⁡(x)−x. Can you finish the question now?

According to W|A, the integral in question 4 doesn't converge. Did you type it correctly?
 
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In questipn 3, integral x(lnx-1) 1(0-1) - 0(ln0-1) = -1
In question 4, the integral does not converge.
One side is endless when it is solved as a normal integral.

Please help to solve step by step :/
 
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Hello again, is this true?
 
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3. I would observe that the area in question may be found from:

\(\displaystyle A=\int_{-\infty}^0 e^x\,dx\)

This is an improper integral, and so I would write:

\(\displaystyle A=\lim_{t\to-\infty}\left(\int_t^0 e^x\,dx\right)=\lim_{t\to-\infty}\left(e^0-e^t\right)=1\quad\checkmark\)
 
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MarkFL said:
3. I would observe that the area in question may be found from:

\(\displaystyle A=\int_{-\infty}^0 e^x\,dx\)

This is an improper integral, and so I would write:

\(\displaystyle A=\lim_{t\to-\infty}\left(\int_t^0 e^x\,dx\right)=\lim_{t\to-\infty}\left(e^0-e^t\right)=1\quad\checkmark\)
Can you help me for question 4? This is my last question, is that true?
 
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According to W|A the definite integral given in #4 does not converge.

\(\displaystyle I=\int_2^{\infty}\frac{x\sqrt{x}}{x^2-1}\,dx\)

Using your substitution:

\(\displaystyle u=\sqrt{x}\implies du=\frac{1}{2\sqrt{x}}\,dx\implies dx=2u\,du\)

We then have:

\(\displaystyle I=2\int_{\sqrt{2}}^{\infty}\frac{u^4}{u^4-1}\,du=2\int_{\sqrt{2}}^{\infty}1+\frac{1}{u^4-1}\,du\)

And then using partial fractions, we may write:

\(\displaystyle I=\frac{1}{2}\int_{\sqrt{2}}^{\infty} 4+\frac{1}{u-1}-\frac{1}{u+1}-\frac{2}{u^2+1}\,du\)

Do you agree so far?
 
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MarkFL said:
According to W|A the definite integral given in #4 does not converge.

\(\displaystyle I=\int_2^{\infty}\frac{x\sqrt{x}}{x^2-1}\,dx\)

Using your substitution:

\(\displaystyle u=\sqrt{x}\implies du=\frac{1}{2\sqrt{x}}\,dx\implies dx=2u\,du\)

We then have:

\(\displaystyle I=2\int_{\sqrt{2}}^{\infty}\frac{u^4}{u^4-1}\,du=2\int_{\sqrt{2}}^{\infty}1+\frac{1}{u^4-1}\,du\)

And then using partial fractions, we may write:

\(\displaystyle I=\frac{1}{2}\int_{\sqrt{2}}^{\infty} 4+\frac{1}{u-1}-\frac{1}{u+1}-\frac{2}{u^2+1}\,du\)

Do you agree so far?
Yes, please write all of steps, sir.
 
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I'm having trouble following your written work. Can you neatly show how you would proceed?
 
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MarkFL said:
I'm having trouble following your written work. Can you neatly show how you would proceed?
I did not solve that question, I just put it on paper. I thought I was writing legibly. :/
 
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My next step would be to write the improper integral as:

\(\displaystyle I=\frac{1}{2}\lim_{t\to\infty}\left(\int_{\sqrt{2}}^{t} 4+\frac{1}{u-1}-\frac{1}{u+1}-\frac{2}{u^2+1}\,du\right)\)

Can you give the anti-derivative we would use in our application of the FTOC on the definite integral in the limit?
 
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MarkFL said:
My next step would be to write the improper integral as:

\(\displaystyle I=\frac{1}{2}\lim_{t\to\infty}\left(\int_{\sqrt{2}}^{t} 4+\frac{1}{u-1}-\frac{1}{u+1}-\frac{2}{u^2+1}\,du\right)\)

Can you give the anti-derivative we would use in our application of the FTOC on the definite integral in the limit?

Is 4u + ln|u+1| - ln|u-1| + 2arctan(u) result?
if t --&gt is infinity;
= 4t - 4kok(2) + ln|(t+1)/(kok(2)+1)| - ln|(t-1)/(kok(2)+1)| + 2arctan(t) - 2arctan(kok(2))

is t a divergent integral since it approximates to infinity?
 
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ozgunozgur said:
Is 4u + ln|u+1| - ln|u-1| + 2arctan(u) result?
if t --&gt is infinity;
= 4t - 4kok(2) + ln|(t+1)/(kok(2)+1)| - ln|(t-1)/(kok(2)+1)| + 2arctan(t) - 2arctan(kok(2))

is t a divergent integral since it approximates to infinity?

No, be careful with your signs...
 

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