Is This System of Equations Impossible to Solve?

In summary, a "No Real System of Equations" is a set of equations with no real solutions. This can be determined if the equations are inconsistent or if they involve complex solutions. In real-world applications, a "No Real System of Equations" can indicate that a problem does not have a feasible solution. It cannot be solved or simplified further, but can be rewritten in a different form for easier understanding.
  • #1
anemone
Gold Member
MHB
POTW Director
3,883
115
Prove that the system of equations below has no real solution:

$x^2+y^2+z^2=1$

$x+2y+3z=4$
 
Mathematics news on Phys.org
  • #2
My solution:

Using the Point-Plane distance formula, we find the distance $d$ from the origin to the plane $x+2y+3z=4$ is:

\(\displaystyle d=\frac{4}{\sqrt{1^2+2^2+3^2}}=\frac{4}{\sqrt{14}}>1\)

Since the equation:

\(\displaystyle x^2+y^2+z^2=1\)

represents a sphere of radius 1 centered at the origin, we can then conclude the system has no real solutions.
 
  • #3
anemone said:
Prove that the system of equations below has no real solution:

$x^2+y^2+z^2=1$

$x+2y+3z=4$

we have
$x^2+y^2+z^2=1\cdots(1)$
$x+2y+3z=4\cdots(2)$
multiply 2nd equation by 2 and subtract from (1)
$(x^2-2x) + ((y^2-4y) + (z^2- 6z) = -7$
or $(x-1)^2 + (y-2)^2 + (z^-3)^2 = 7\cdots(3)$

(1) is a sphere with centre (0,0,0) and radius 1
(3) is a sphere with cenre (1,2,3) and radius $\sqrt{7}$

distance between (0,0,0) and (1,2,3) is $ \sqrt{14} > 1 + \sqrt{7}$
hence no solution
 
  • #4
anemone said:
Prove that the system of equations below has no real solution:

$x^2+y^2+z^2=1$

$x+2y+3z=4$

Using Lagrange multipliers we have

$$\Lambda=x+2y+3z-\lambda(x^2+y^2+z^2-1)$$
$$\dfrac{d\Lambda}{dx}=1-2\lambda x=0$$
$$\dfrac{d\Lambda}{dy}=2-2\lambda y=0$$
$$\dfrac{d\Lambda}{dz}=3-2\lambda z=0$$
$$\dfrac{d\Lambda}{d\lambda}=x^2+y^2+z^2-1=0$$

This yields the system

$$x=\dfrac{1}{2\lambda}$$
$$y=\dfrac{2}{2\lambda}$$
$$z=\dfrac{3}{2\lambda}$$
$$x^2+y^2+z^2=1$$

Squaring the first three equations and summing them gives

$$\dfrac{1}{4\lambda^2}+\dfrac{4}{4\lambda^2}+\dfrac{9}{4\lambda^2}=x^2+y^2+z^2=1\Rightarrow\lambda=\pm\sqrt{\dfrac72}$$

and (choosing the positive root)

$$x+2y+3z=\sqrt{14}$$

Another set af values for $x,y,z$ that satisfy $x^2+y^2+z^2=1$ is $x=y=z=\dfrac{1}{\sqrt3}$.

Then $x+2y+3z=2\sqrt3<\sqrt{14}$, so we have found a maximum < $4$ and the given equations have no solution.
 
  • #5
greg1313 said:
Using Lagrange multipliers we have

$$\Lambda=x+2y+3z-\lambda(x^2+y^2+z^2-1)$$
$$\dfrac{d\Lambda}{dx}=1-2\lambda x=0$$
$$\dfrac{d\Lambda}{dy}=2-2\lambda y=0$$
$$\dfrac{d\Lambda}{dz}=3-2\lambda z=0$$
$$\dfrac{d\Lambda}{d\lambda}=x^2+y^2+z^2-1=0$$

This yields the system

$$x=\dfrac{1}{2\lambda}$$
$$y=\dfrac{2}{2\lambda}$$
$$z=\dfrac{3}{2\lambda}$$
$$x^2+y^2+z^2=1$$

Squaring the first three equations and summing them gives

$$\dfrac{1}{4\lambda^2}+\dfrac{4}{4\lambda^2}+\dfrac{9}{4\lambda^2}=x^2+y^2+z^2=1\Rightarrow\lambda=\pm\sqrt{\dfrac72}$$

and (choosing the positive root)

$$x+2y+3z=\sqrt{14}$$

Another set af values for $x,y,z$ that satisfy $x^2+y^2+z^2=1$ is $x=y=z=\dfrac{1}{\sqrt3}$.

Then $x+2y+3z=2\sqrt3<\sqrt{14}$, so we have found a maximum < $4$ and the given equations have no solution.
Haven't seen one of those for a while. Nice!

-Dan
 
  • #6
Thanks all for participating in this challenge! (Cool)

My solution:
Apply the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality on the LHS of the second equation, we have:

$4=x+2y+3z≤\sqrt{1+4+9}\sqrt{x^2+y^2+z^2}=\sqrt{14}\sqrt{1}=\sqrt{14}$

that implies $16\le 14$, which is absurd.

So the system has no solutions in real numbers.
 
  • #7
anemone said:
Thanks all for participating in this challenge! (Cool)

My solution:
Apply the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality on the LHS of the second equation, we have:

$4=x+2y+3z≤\sqrt{1+4+9}\sqrt{x^2+y^2+z^2}=\sqrt{14}\sqrt{1}=\sqrt{14}$

that implies $16\le 14$, which is absurd.

So the system has no solutions in real numbers.

Nicely done! (Yes)
 

Related to Is This System of Equations Impossible to Solve?

1. What is a "No Real System of Equations"?

A "No Real System of Equations" refers to a set of equations with no real solutions. This means that there is no combination of values for the variables that will make all the equations true simultaneously.

2. How do you know if a system of equations has no real solutions?

A system of equations has no real solutions if the equations are inconsistent, meaning they contradict each other. This can be determined by graphing the equations and seeing if they intersect at any point or by solving the equations and checking for a solution.

3. Can a system of equations have no real solutions but still have complex solutions?

Yes, a system of equations can have no real solutions but still have complex solutions. Complex solutions involve imaginary numbers and cannot be graphed on a traditional coordinate plane.

4. What is the significance of a "No Real System of Equations" in real-world applications?

A "No Real System of Equations" can indicate that a problem does not have a feasible solution in the real world. For example, if a system of equations represents the production and cost of a product, a "No Real System of Equations" would mean that the desired profit cannot be achieved.

5. How can a "No Real System of Equations" be solved or simplified?

A "No Real System of Equations" cannot be solved or simplified further. However, it can be rewritten in a different form, such as using matrices or elimination, to make it easier to understand or solve.

Similar threads

  • General Math
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • General Math
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • General Math
Replies
1
Views
890
  • General Math
Replies
7
Views
1K
  • Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
Replies
2
Views
432
  • General Math
Replies
5
Views
1K
Replies
1
Views
848
Replies
4
Views
1K
Replies
9
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
749
Back
Top