Kinematics, time taken to a wall disappear

In summary, when looking through a window at a wall with an upward inclination, the wall appears first at the edge $A$ and then disappears at the edge $B$. If the train is traveling at a speed of $3.0$ m/s, it will take $2.1$ s for the wall to appear at edge $A$ and $3.5$ s for the wall to disappear at edge $B$.
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I'm posting this because I disagree with the answer. Here's the question.

You are in a train that is traveling at $3.0$ m/s along a straight horizontal railroad. Very close and parallel to the railroad there exists a wall with upwards inclination of $12^{\circ}$ with the horizontal. Looking through the window ($0.9$ m tall and $2.0$ m wide) from its compartment, the train is moving to the left. The superior face of the wall appears first at edge $A$ of the window and finally disappears at edge $B$ of the window. How much time passes between the appearance and disappearance of the superior face of the wall?

The book gives the answer as $2.1$ s, but I find $3.5$ s. There is a picture but I'll have to upload it later. I'll add it to this post together with my thoughts on the problem after I sleep. :)
 
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Fantini said:
I'm posting this because I disagree with the answer. Here's the question.

You are in a train that is traveling at $3.0$ m/s along a straight horizontal railroad. Very close and parallel to the railroad there exists a wall with upwards inclination of $12^{\circ}$ with the horizontal. Looking through the window ($0.9$ m tall and $2.0$ m wide) from its compartment, the train is moving to the left. The superior face of the wall appears first at edge $A$ of the window and finally disappears at edge $B$ of the window. How much time passes between the appearance and disappearance of the superior face of the wall?

The book gives the answer as $2.1$ s, but I find $3.5$ s. There is a picture but I'll have to upload it later. I'll add it to this post together with my thoughts on the problem after I sleep. :)

After making a guess as to the shape and positioning of the wall, I'm getting $2.1\text{ s}$.
Hmm. I can also see how $3.5\text{ s}$ can come out.
It all depends on the shape of the wall and the wording superior face.

I'll explain after you add the picture and post your thoughts. (Wink)
 
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I know the image is too big. Sorry about that.

The distance point $A$ travels is $d$, which is the lower side of the right triangle given by point $B$, the line drawn and the direction traveled by $A$, plus the width of the train, $2$ m. Therefore the time taken will be $$t = \frac{d+2}{v} = \frac{\frac{0.9}{\tan(12^{\circ})}+2}{3} \approx 3.5 \text{ s}.$$ I've checked and the answer given coincides with a situation where we discount the time taken to travel the width of the train, that is, $$t = \frac{d-2}{v} \approx 2.1 \text{ s}.$$ Is my interpretation correct?
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Looks fine, except that I find that:

$$t = \frac{\frac{0.9}{\tan(12^{\circ})}+2}{3} \approx 2.1 \text{ s}$$

See W|A.
 
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Could I have already become insane? ;) I think I typed the wrong commands in Mathematica. I'm not that bad at kinematics afterall. Thanks ILS!
 
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Fantini said:
Could I have already become insane? ;) I think I typed the wrong commands in Mathematica. I'm not that bad at kinematics afterall. Thanks ILS!

Yes. I'm a wizard.
But mind you, I'm trying to keep a low profile. ;)
 

FAQ: Kinematics, time taken to a wall disappear

What is kinematics?

Kinematics is the branch of physics that deals with the motion of objects, without considering the forces that cause the motion.

How is time taken to a wall disappear calculated?

The time taken for a wall to disappear is calculated using the equation t = d/v, where t is time, d is distance, and v is velocity.

What factors affect the time taken for a wall to disappear?

The time taken for a wall to disappear is affected by the distance between the observer and the wall, as well as the velocity of the object causing the wall to disappear.

Can the time taken for a wall to disappear be negative?

No, the time taken for a wall to disappear cannot be negative. This is because time is always a positive quantity and cannot be negative.

How does the angle of observation affect the time taken for a wall to disappear?

The angle of observation does not affect the time taken for a wall to disappear. This is because the distance between the observer and the wall remains the same regardless of the angle of observation.

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