Lagrangian for a rod pivoting at the end of a clock hand

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In summary, the Lagrangian for a rod pivoting at the end of a clock hand describes the system's dynamics by considering its kinetic and potential energy. The kinetic energy is derived from the motion of the rod as it swings, while the potential energy is influenced by its height relative to a reference point. By applying the principles of Lagrangian mechanics, one can derive the equations of motion for the rod, allowing for analysis of its behavior under various conditions and forces. This approach provides insight into the rotational dynamics and energy conservation in the system.
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##ml^2\ddot \phi + mRl\varphi \dot \phi\sin(\phi - \varphi t) = 0##
For (d),
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I am confused how ##a(t)## oscillates harmonically. The EOM is ##ml^2\ddot \phi + mRl\varphi \dot \phi\sin(\phi - \varphi t) = 0##

Then using ##\phi - \varphi t = a(t)##
##l\ddot \phi + R\phi \varphi a(t) = 0##
Where I used the small angle approximation after substituting in ##a(t)##
Does anybody please know where to go from here to find ##\omega##?

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Simply linearise the equation of motion around ##\phi^*##. You have attempted this but need to double check your math.

Also note: It is ##\gamma##, not ##\varphi##.
 
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Orodruin said:
Simply linearise the equation of motion around ##\phi^*##. You have attempted this but need to double check your math.

Also note: It is ##\gamma##, not ##\varphi##.
Thank you for your reply @Orodruin!

##l^2\ddot \phi + Rl\phi \gamma a(t) = 0## is that please correct now?

Sorry I don't understand how you linearize the equation of motion around ##\phi^*##. I have not been taught that. Could you please explain a bit more?

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Thank you for your reply @Orodruin!

##l^2\ddot \phi + Rl\phi \gamma a(t) = 0## is that please correct now?

No. Carefully consider the second term. Where did the ##\phi## come from?

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Sorry I don't understand how you linearize the equation of motion around ##\phi^*##. I have not been taught that. Could you please explain a bit more?
It is essentially what you are (attempting) to do. You write ##\phi = \phi^* + a(t)## and then assume that ##a(t)## is small. Perform a Taylor expansion in ##a(t)## and keep only linear terms.
 
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Also, for the first term, you have not inserted the assumption ##\phi = \phi^* + a## ...
 
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I have solved the problem now.

EOM: ##l^2 \ddot a + Rl \gamma \dot \phi a = 0##

Angular frequency ##\omega = \sqrt{\frac{R \gamma \dot \phi}{l}}##

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FAQ: Lagrangian for a rod pivoting at the end of a clock hand

What is the Lagrangian for a rod pivoting at the end of a clock hand?

The Lagrangian for a system is defined as the difference between the kinetic energy (T) and potential energy (V) of the system: L = T - V. For a rod of length L pivoting at one end, the kinetic energy can be expressed in terms of its angular velocity, while the potential energy can be determined based on its height relative to a reference point. If θ is the angle the rod makes with the vertical, the kinetic energy is T = (1/2) m (L^2/3) (dθ/dt)^2, and the potential energy is V = mg(L/2)(1 - cos(θ)), where m is the mass of the rod and g is the acceleration due to gravity.

How do you derive the equations of motion from the Lagrangian?

To derive the equations of motion from the Lagrangian, we use the Euler-Lagrange equation, which states that d/dt(∂L/∂(dθ/dt)) - ∂L/∂θ = 0. By calculating the partial derivatives of the Lagrangian with respect to θ and its time derivative dθ/dt, we can substitute these into the Euler-Lagrange equation to obtain a second-order differential equation that describes the motion of the rod. This equation can then be solved to find the angular displacement as a function of time.

What assumptions are made in modeling the rod as a simple pendulum?

In modeling the rod as a simple pendulum, several assumptions are typically made: the rod is assumed to be uniform and rigid, the pivot is frictionless, and the motion occurs in a vertical plane without air resistance. Additionally, the angle of displacement is often assumed to be small, allowing for the use of small-angle approximations in the equations of motion.

What physical quantities can be derived from the Lagrangian of the rod?

From the Lagrangian of the rod, one can derive various physical quantities, including the equations of motion, the angular momentum of the rod, and the energy conservation principles. The kinetic and potential energies can also provide insights into the system's stability and oscillatory behavior, and the Lagrangian can be used to analyze the system under different constraints or external forces.

How does the pivot point affect the dynamics of the rod?

The pivot point is crucial in determining the dynamics of the rod. It acts as the axis of rotation, and its position affects the moment of inertia of the rod, which in turn influences the angular acceleration for a given torque. If the pivot point is moved, the effective length of the rod changes, which alters the equations of motion

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