Lang's Algebra Ch 1 Problem 12(c): Ambiguous Group Law

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In summary, the conversation discusses a problem in Lang's Algebra regarding the definition of a group G, which is the semidirect product of two groups H and N with a given homomorphism f. The issue is that the notation used is ambiguous, with f(b) being a member of Aut(N) and not fitting with the rest of the book's notation. It is concluded that f(b) should be applied to a' and the exercise is attempting to demonstrate the construction of the semidirect product.
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I am working the problems in Lang's Algebra. I am on number 12(c) on Chapter 1 [revised third edition], it states

let H and N be groups and let f: H --> Aut(N) be given homomorphism Define G = NxH with the law

(a,b)(a',b') = (a'f(b)a',bb').

the problem is that f(b) is a member of Aut(N) and so the definition is ambiguous at best. I mean I suppose it could mean f(b) applied to a' (or even applied a). But this doesn't fit the notation of the rest of the book. Any comments on this?
 
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(Should that be "(a f(b) a', bb')" instead?)

I'm pretty sure it's supposed to mean f(b) applied to a'. It looks like the exercise is attempting to walk you through the construction of the semidirect product of two groups.
 
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(Should that be "(a f(b) a', bb')" instead?)

I'm pretty sure it's supposed to mean f(b) applied to a'. It looks like the exercise is attempting to walk you through the construction of the semidirect product of two groups.

yeah i meant a instead of a' up there. Ok, I guess that has to be what it is then. Thanks.
 

FAQ: Lang's Algebra Ch 1 Problem 12(c): Ambiguous Group Law

What is the purpose of Lang's Algebra Ch 1 Problem 12(c)?

The purpose of this problem is to explore the concept of an ambiguous group law, where the operation used to combine elements of a set may not be well-defined.

Can you give an example of an ambiguous group law?

One example of an ambiguous group law is the operation of division, where the quotient may not be defined for certain inputs.

How does ambiguity in a group law affect the structure of a group?

Ambiguity in a group law can lead to inconsistencies and contradictions, making it difficult to establish a well-defined group structure.

What are some potential consequences of an ambiguous group law in mathematical applications?

An ambiguous group law can lead to incorrect results and flawed conclusions in mathematical applications, as well as making it challenging to solve problems or prove theorems.

How can we resolve an ambiguous group law?

One way to resolve an ambiguous group law is to redefine the operation or set restrictions on the inputs to ensure a well-defined group structure. Another approach is to carefully examine the properties of the operation and its elements to determine any inconsistencies or contradictions.

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