Why Does Solving Laplace's Equation in a Square Yield an Infinite Sum?

In summary, the conversation discusses the task of solving the Laplace equation in a square with a side length of 1. The person attempted to use superposition but ended up with an infinite sum, which is not the expected result. The given equations are actually boundary conditions, and there is a mistake in them. The correct equations are 3.ψ(x=1,0≤y≤1)=10sin(∏*y)+3y and 4.ψ(y=1,0≤x≤1)=9sin(2∏*x)+3x. There is still a need to find the relevant equations to solve the problem.
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Homework Statement



i need to solve the laplace equation in square with length side 1 i tried to solve by superposition and i got infinite sum enen thouth i know that the answer should be finite

Homework Equations



1.ψ(x=0,0≤y≤1)=0
2.ψ(y=0,0≤x≤1)=0
3.ψ(x=1,0≤y≤1)=10sin(∏*y)+3x
4.ψ(y=1,0≤x≤1)=9sin(2∏*y)+3x

The Attempt at a Solution


from 1 and to 2 have (by superposition):
ψ n=Asin(n∏x)sinh(n∏y) or ψ n=Asin(n∏y)sinh(n∏x)
and after multiply by sin(n∏x)
A n=2∫((9sin(2∏x)+3x)*sin(n∏x))/sinh(n∏) (the integral from 0 to 1)
the problem is that i heve the infinite sum from ∫3x*sin(n∏x)
thank you very much!
 
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Hello cg, and welcome to PI.
Are you sure your relevant equations are relevant equations ? They look like boundary conditions to me.
In that case, filling in x=1 changes 10sin(∏*y)+3x to 10sin(∏*y)+3 and 9sin(2∏*y)+3x changes into 3x.
And then the relevant eqations still have to be found out ...
 
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hi BvU and thanks.
you were right this is boundry conditions and they are also incorrect (i am sorry)
3.ψ(x=1,0≤y≤1)=10sin(∏*y)+3y
4.ψ(y=1,0≤x≤1)=9sin(2∏*x)+3x
 
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And then the relevant eqations still have to be found out ... What do you have available ?
 
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It seems like you have made a good attempt at solving the Laplace equation in a square with length side 1. However, as you have mentioned, the solution you obtained is an infinite sum, which is not the expected result. This could be due to a mistake in your calculations or in the application of the superposition principle.

One possible way to solve the Laplace equation in this case is by using separation of variables. This involves assuming that the solution can be written as a product of two functions, one depending only on x and the other only on y. By plugging this assumption into the Laplace equation and solving for each function separately, you can obtain a finite solution that satisfies the boundary conditions given in the problem.

Alternatively, you could also try using a different method such as the method of images or the method of Green's functions. These methods may provide a more direct solution to the problem without the need for an infinite sum.

In any case, it is important to carefully check your calculations and make sure that you are correctly applying the boundary conditions and the Laplace equation. If you are still having trouble, it may be helpful to consult with your instructor or a colleague for further guidance. Good luck!
 

FAQ: Why Does Solving Laplace's Equation in a Square Yield an Infinite Sum?

1. What is the Laplace equation in a square?

The Laplace equation in a square is a partial differential equation that describes the distribution of a scalar field in a two-dimensional space, such as temperature or electric potential, where the values at the boundaries of the square are known.

2. What is the physical significance of the Laplace equation in a square?

The Laplace equation in a square has several physical interpretations, including the steady-state heat transfer in a square plate and the electric potential in a region with no charges.

3. What are the boundary conditions for the Laplace equation in a square?

The boundary conditions for the Laplace equation in a square include specifying the values of the scalar field at the four sides of the square, also known as Dirichlet boundary conditions. Alternatively, Neumann boundary conditions can be used, where the normal derivative of the scalar field is specified at the boundaries.

4. How is the Laplace equation in a square solved numerically?

The Laplace equation in a square can be solved numerically using methods such as the finite difference method or the finite element method. These methods discretize the square into smaller elements and use iterative algorithms to approximate the solution at each point within the square.

5. What are the applications of the Laplace equation in a square?

The Laplace equation in a square has many applications in physics, engineering, and mathematics. It is commonly used to model steady-state heat transfer, fluid flow, and electrostatics. Additionally, it has applications in image processing, signal analysis, and probability theory.

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