Laplacian in Polar Cooridinates

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The discussion focuses on calculating the Laplacian of the function x^2 + y^2 + z^2 using polar coordinates, with participants clarifying the appropriate application of the del operator. Daniel expresses confusion about using polar versus Cartesian coordinates, suggesting that Cartesian is simpler for this calculation. The conversation also touches on the topic of degeneracy in quantum states within a 3D box, questioning whether non-sequential quantum numbers can lead to degeneracy. Participants confirm that the Laplacian can be expressed in Cartesian coordinates as well as in spherical coordinates, emphasizing the need for clarity in mathematical approaches. The consensus leans towards using Cartesian coordinates for ease of computation.
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I need to take the \nabla^2 of x^2+y^2+z^2. This is how far I got

<br /> \begin{gather*}<br /> \nabla^2 = \frac{d^2}{dr^2} + \frac{2}{r} \frac{d}{dr} + \frac{1}{r^2}(\frac{1}{sin^2\theta}\frac{d^2}{d\Phi^2} + \frac{1}{sin\theta}\frac{d}{d\theta} sin\theta\frac{d}{d\theta})\\<br /> \nabla^2(r^2sin^2\theta cos^2\Phi + r^2sin^2\theta sin^2\Phi + r^2cos^2\theta = \frac{1}{sin\theta} \frac{d}{d\theta}(sin\theta \frac{d}{d\theta}) + \frac{1}{sin^2\theta} \frac{d^2}{d\Phi^2})<br /> \end{gather*}<br />


Also, can degeneracy occur with n not in order? Like for a part. in 3D box can degeneracy occur for \Psi_{1,3,5} \Psi_{5,3,1} or do the n have to be next each other like \Psi_{1,2,1} \Psi_{2,1,1}?
 
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Is that a spherical box?And how does the potential look like...?

Daniel.
 
Im not sure. I just need to use the del operator on x^2+y^2+z^2.
 
I mean del squared or laplacian.

Oh, for the 2nd question: a 3D box with V = infinity outside box.
 
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It's simple.

\nabla^{2}=\Delta=\frac{\partial^{2}}{\partial x^{2}}+\frac{\partial^{2}}{\partial y^{2}}+\frac{\partial^{2}}{\partial z^{2}}

Use it to differentiate what u had to (x^{2}+y^{2}+z^{2}).

Daniel.
 
Oh, but I mean using polar coordinates for x^2+y^2+z^2 = r.

Thanks for the the p chem help dextercioby.
 
Nope,i think you mean spherical coordinates and

x^{2}+y^{2}+z^{2}=r^{2}

Daniel.
 
And one more thing:please take my advice and compute that in cartesian coordinates...It's easier.Maths should be made as easy as possible,here's an opportunity

Daniel.
 
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That's why I was so confused with the first post, why were we straying away from cartesian when the Laplacian operator is so easily used on the described fct?
 

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