Light Beam Opposite Motion: Einstein Special Theory

In summary, the conversation discusses the Einstein special theory of relativity and the thought experiment involving a moving spaceship and a beam of light. The conclusion is that time on the spaceship passes at a slower rate than on earth. The question is posed about what would happen if the light beam was thrown in the opposite direction of the spaceship's motion. It is explained that this would be self-contradictory and the concept of "simultaneous" also changes between frames in special relativity. The example given by Einstein using a train is referenced.
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Hello Everyone. I recently studied the Einstein special theory of relativity. I studied the thought experiment where a beam of light is thrown from a moving spaceship in the direction of its motion and the distance after a certain time interval was different from perspective of a man on spaceship from a man on Earth (I understand this). the conclusion was that time on spaceship passed at a slower rate than on earth.
My Question is that what if the light beam is thrown from back window of the spaceship opposite to its direction of motion? because in this case the result may be that time on Earth passes slowly than that on spaceship. reversed effect from same experiment ??
 
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No. That would be self-contradictory. Clocks will always tick slower as observed by someone who sees them moving.

Typically the derivation of the Lorentz transforms involves light moving both forwards and backwards in a moving vehicle. It may be possible to derive them with light traveling in only one direction, but I haven't seen it done.
 
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let me elaborate my question. suppose there are two spaceships A and B. A is moving with very high speed (say 1 m/s) in x-axis and B is at rest. A throws a beam of light where distance on x-axis of the beam is 0 w.r.t both A and B. now beam travels with constant speed of light (assume 2 m/s). after 2 seconds the distance on x-axis of beam from B is 4m while distance from A is 2m because A is already in motion. as speed of light is constant, so something must give way for distance to be reduced for A. that thing is Time. so we can deduce that time on spaceship A passed slowly compared to that on B. right ?
Now same experiment but this time throw light beam in opposite direction to motion of A. this time we get reversed results. why ?
 
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1m/s is 3.6kph - a slow walking pace. The speed of light is 3x108m/s.

There are three effects of special relativity. Time dilation and length contraction are the famous ones, but the notion of "simultaneous" is also something that changes between frames. Between the three things it's possible to produce a coherent explanation of your scenario.

The end-points of both your scenarios happen four seconds after the light was emitted, which is to say that they end simultaneously - according to B. However, things that are simultaneous according to B are not simultaneous according to A. A has no problem with the fact that the pulses are different distances away from him because, from A's perspective, the measurements of their location were not made simultaneously. The light had different amounts of time to travel, so it traveled different distances.

Einstein used very nearly this exact example to derive the Lorentz transforms. Google for Einstein's train thought experiment.
 
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Related to Light Beam Opposite Motion: Einstein Special Theory

1. What is the "Light Beam Opposite Motion" in Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity?

The "Light Beam Opposite Motion" refers to the phenomenon observed when a beam of light is shone from a moving object. According to Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity, the speed of light is constant for all observers, regardless of their relative motion. This means that the speed of light will appear the same to an observer on a moving object as it would to an observer standing still.

2. How does the Light Beam Opposite Motion contradict classical physics theories?

Classical physics theories, such as Newton's laws of motion, state that the speed of light should be affected by the motion of the observer. This means that the speed of light would appear faster or slower depending on the observer's relative motion. However, the Light Beam Opposite Motion observed in Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity disproves this idea and shows that the speed of light is constant for all observers.

3. What is the significance of the Light Beam Opposite Motion in Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity?

The Light Beam Opposite Motion is significant because it supports and validates the principle of the speed of light being constant for all observers, which is a fundamental concept in Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity. It also helps to explain other phenomena, such as time dilation and length contraction, which are crucial to understanding the theory.

4. How is the Light Beam Opposite Motion experimentally proven?

The Light Beam Opposite Motion can be experimentally proven through various experiments, such as the Michelson-Morley experiment. This experiment showed that the speed of light is the same in all directions, regardless of the source's motion. Other experiments, such as the Kennedy-Thorndike experiment, have also supported this concept and provided further evidence for the constancy of the speed of light.

5. Can the Light Beam Opposite Motion be applied to other types of waves?

Yes, the principle of the Light Beam Opposite Motion can be applied to other types of waves, such as sound waves and electromagnetic waves. This concept is not limited to just light waves but can be extended to all types of waves that have a constant speed for all observers. This is a fundamental concept in Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity and has been extensively tested and proven through various experiments.

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