LIGO+Virgo saw something unknown

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In summary, a short burst was seen by all three detectors, with a false alarm rate of 1 per 25 years. Most likely this is something real, and it is still being studied.
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LIGO and Virgo saw what looks like a very short gravitational event of unknown origin.
Not much is known so far. This is the notification from LIGO/Virgo and here is some raw data. Things I gathered from other sources (Twitter 1, Twitter 2, Reddit, ...):

It was a very short burst seen by all three detectors, with a false alarm rate of 1 per 25 years - a good chance this is something real. The burst was 14 milliseconds long and the fitted central frequency is 65 Hz, which means they had just about a single cycle in the signal. Most likely it won't look like a sine wave, it will probably look like a short peak, maybe two peaks in opposite directions (depending on how they define the duration), and then potentially some smaller oscillations afterwards. It was triggered by a system looking for intermediate mass black holes (heavier than stars but lighter than galactic black holes) but it is unclear if one of these was involved. It came roughly from the direction of Betelgeuse but the star is still there - telescopes are searching through the area to see if there is something new. Here is a map where people have looked.

Expect more updates in the following days.
 
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Would a near-miss by two Black Holes cause something like that, as opposed to the chirp from a merger?
 
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A very eccentric orbit of two black holes is among the options discussed. It can't be too close, otherwise they would lose too much energy and merge.
 
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Galactic warfare... got to be! :oldbiggrin:
 
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MathematicalPhysicist said:
Galactic warfare... got to be! :oldbiggrin:

Or Thanos playing black hole bowling again...
 
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Can anyone quickly explain what I'm looking at? Which contours mean what? Where is the detection area? And how precisely is its location known anyway?
 
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The red ellipses are contours from LIGO/Virgo. The two larger ellipses are the 90% confidence region (by construction in 90% of the cases the source should be in them - this doesn't mean it has a 90% probability in this specific case however), the smaller one looks like the 68% region ("1 sigma"). You can check and uncheck the follow-up instruments to see what is what. As an example ZTF created the big blue rectangle areas.
 
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Could it be (speculating wildly without even seeing data) a three body phenomenon where a temporary obit occurred? One body guides hyperbolic mass into a short orbit only to slingshot it out again? But controlling body's gravitational broadcasts outside the bandwidth of the detection?

[edit: And if I'm right call it a "wolf whistle phenomenon!" if I may!]
 
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Any chance it's related to a core contraction leading to neon or oxygen-burning (or whatever stage it's at) ?
 
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Let's not speculate. Until we get more information, more speculation post will get this thread moved out of the science forums and into science fiction.

The problem is this topic is super interesting... but control your urge to guess.

Thanks!
 
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The red ellipses are contours from LIGO/Virgo. The two larger ellipses are the 90% confidence region
I still don't get it. Why are there three of those contours, but only one is surveyed with follow-up instruments (other than SWIFT)?
And why is Betelgeuse being mentioned if neither encompasses that region?
 
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There are two separate regions in the sky that fit reasonably well to the observations. The left one in the image fits better, that's why it is studied more.
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And why is Betelgeuse being mentioned if neither encompasses that region?
Because it's an interesting star people have heard about. It is not completely incompatible with the sky localization.
 
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This could be bad then there could be a threat following behind it?
 
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This could be bad then there could be a threat following behind it?
Yes, almost certainly...

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What is that? What could it possibly be
 
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The picture is a Borg warship, from Star Trek. The signal is likely a couple of black holes passing each other a few billion years ago.

Seriously: stop panicking. The only cosmology-related thing that's going to take you to an early grave is a heart attack from stressing about it.
 
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FAQ: LIGO+Virgo saw something unknown

What is LIGO+Virgo and what did they see?

LIGO (Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory) and Virgo are two gravitational wave detectors located in the United States and Italy, respectively. They are designed to detect ripples in the fabric of spacetime, known as gravitational waves. In April 2019, they detected a signal from the merger of two black holes, which was the first ever direct observation of such an event.

How does LIGO+Virgo detect gravitational waves?

LIGO and Virgo use a technique called interferometry, which involves splitting a laser beam into two perpendicular beams and then recombining them. If a gravitational wave passes through the detector, it will cause a slight change in the length of the arms, which can be detected by the interference pattern of the recombined beams.

Why is the detection of gravitational waves significant?

The detection of gravitational waves provides a new way to observe and study the universe. It allows us to directly observe events, such as the merging of black holes, that were previously only theorized. It also provides a new tool for studying the properties of gravity and the nature of spacetime.

What is the significance of LIGO+Virgo seeing something unknown?

LIGO and Virgo are designed to detect specific types of gravitational waves, such as those produced by the merging of black holes or neutron stars. However, in April 2019, they detected a signal that did not match any known type of event. This could potentially be a new type of gravitational wave, opening up a whole new area of study in the field of astrophysics.

How does the discovery of gravitational waves impact our understanding of the universe?

The discovery of gravitational waves confirms a major prediction of Albert Einstein's theory of general relativity and provides a new tool for studying the universe. It allows us to observe events that were previously invisible and provides a new way to test our understanding of gravity and the structure of the universe. It also opens up new possibilities for future discoveries and advancements in the field of astrophysics.

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