Lim of this function using L'Hopitals rule multiple times

In summary, the conversation discusses how to solve a limit problem using L'Hopital's rule. The original function, which includes a power of 1/2, produces an indeterminate form when substituted with 2. The experts suggest taking the limit of the square of the function instead, which simplifies the problem and allows the use of L'Hopital's rule only once. This results in a simpler expression without an indeterminate form, giving the correct answer for the limit.
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animboy
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Homework Statement



lim as x approached 2 from above of:

(x1/2 - 21/2 + (x - 2)1/2)/(x2 - 4)1/2

Homework Equations



L'Hopitals rule...

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried susbtituting in 2 and found that I got 0/0 thus it was possible to use L'hopitals. I then got inf/inf, so I used it again, but now I keep getting inf/inf. So what do I do? I'm stumped. I tried factorising but the + and - signs prevented me.
 
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The reason you keep getting indeterminate form is probably because the pesky power of 1/2. Assuming the limit exists, instead of looking for the limit of f(x) where f(x) is your function there, consider instead looking for the limit of the *square* of f(x).
 
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yenchin said:
The reason you keep getting indeterminate form is probably because the pesky power of 1/2. Assuming the limit exists, instead of looking for the limit of f(x) where f(x) is your function there, consider instead looking for the limit of the *square* of f(x).

But won't that give us a different limit? since the function squared is essentially a different function to the original.
 
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animboy said:
But won't that give us a different limit? since the function squared is essentially a different function to the original.

Of course you would then need to take the square root at the end...
 
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To be more explicit, if the limit of f and g exist, then lim(f g)=(lim f)(lim g). In particular, lim(f^2)=(limf)^2.
 
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animboy said:
But won't that give us a different limit? since the function squared is essentially a different function to the original.
It follows from the fact that for any two functions [itex]f(x)[/itex] and [itex]g(x)[/itex] such that the limits

[tex]\lim_{x\to x_0}f(x)\text{ and } \lim_{x\to x_0}g(x)[/tex]

exist, then

[tex]\lim_{x\to x_0}[f(x) g(x)] = [\lim_{x\to x_0}f(x)][\lim_{x\to x_0}g(x)][/tex]

Edit: Seems that I was beaten to it!
 
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Hootenanny said:
It follows from the fact that for any two functions [itex]f(x)[/itex] and [itex]g(x)[/itex] such that the limits

[tex]\lim_{x\to x_0}f(x)\text{ and } \lim_{x\to x_0}g(x)[/tex]

exist, then

[tex]\lim_{x\to x_0}[f(x) g(x)] = [\lim_{x\to x_0}f(x)][\lim_{x\to x_0}g(x)][/tex]

Edit: Seems that I was beaten to it!

I tried this and the resulting functions again gave me 0/0 so I again used L'hopitals and after length algebra this is the expression I got:

{2 - (2/x)0.5 + [2(2(x3 - 3x2 + 3x - 2))0.5 - (x2 - 2x)0.5]/ [2x3 - 8x2 + 8x]}

What do I do now, substituting in 2 gives <1 + inf> where inf comes from the third expression in the equation which gives "(0 - 0)/0". SO what now?
 
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Now check again. The square of your function should give something nice. You only need to apply L'Hopital *once* to get the answer. In particular your denominator x^2-4 now just becomes 2x. So when x goes to 2, it does not give trouble.
 

FAQ: Lim of this function using L'Hopitals rule multiple times

What is L'Hopital's rule and how is it used to find the limit of a function?

L'Hopital's rule is a mathematical tool used to find the limit of a function when the limit evaluates to an indeterminate form, such as 0/0 or ∞/∞. It states that if the limit of a function f(x) as x approaches a is an indeterminate form, then the limit of the function f(x)/g(x) as x approaches a is equal to the limit of the derivatives of f(x) and g(x) as x approaches a. This rule can be applied multiple times until a definitive limit is reached.

Can L'Hopital's rule be used for any function?

No, L'Hopital's rule can only be used for functions that are differentiable at the point where the limit is being evaluated. This means that the function must have a defined derivative at that point.

What is an indeterminate form and why does L'Hopital's rule work for these forms?

An indeterminate form is an expression that cannot be evaluated to a single value. Examples include 0/0, ∞/∞, and 1^∞. L'Hopital's rule works for these forms because it allows us to manipulate the function and simplify it to a point where the limit can be evaluated.

Is there a limit to the number of times L'Hopital's rule can be applied?

No, there is no specific limit to the number of times L'Hopital's rule can be applied. However, it is important to note that applying the rule multiple times may not always lead to a definitive limit. In some cases, it may result in an infinite loop.

What should be done if L'Hopital's rule cannot be applied to find the limit of a function?

If L'Hopital's rule cannot be applied, other methods such as algebraic manipulation, substitution, or the use of limit theorems may be used to find the limit of a function.

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