Limit at infinity of an electric quadrupole

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The discussion focuses on calculating the electric field of an electric quadrupole configuration consisting of charges Q, -2Q, and Q positioned along the x-axis. For part a, the correct expression for the electric field at points where x > a is provided. In part b, the user struggles to derive the expected x^-4 dependence of the electric field and mistakenly concludes it to be zero. A suggestion is made to use the binomial series approximation to correctly evaluate the terms for large x, which will help in finding the coefficient of the x^-4 term. The conversation highlights the importance of careful approximation techniques in physics calculations.
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This is for my intro physics 2 class

Homework Statement


Consider the charges Q at (-a, 0), -2Q at (0, 0) and Q at (a, 0). Such a combination of charges, with zero net charge and with zero net dipole moment, is called an electric quadrupole. a. Find the electric field along the x acis, for x > a. b. Show that, for x >> a, the electric field varies by x^-4. Find the coefficient.

Homework Equations


\vec{E} = \frac{kQ}_{r^{2}}\hat{r}

Here is the answer I got for part a which was correct.

\vec{E} = kQ\left[\frac{1}_{(x+a)^{2}}} + \frac{1}_{(x-a)^{2}}} - \frac{2}_{x^{2}}}\right]\hat{j}

The Attempt at a Solution



This is what I got for part b:

\vec{E} = 2kQ\left[\frac{1}_{x^{2}}} - \frac{1}_{x^{2}}}\right]\hat{j} = 0

I don't know how to get the book's answer of

\frac{6a^{2}}_{x^{4}}}\hat{j}
 
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Hi Monocles,

Monocles said:
This is for my intro physics 2 class

Homework Statement


Consider the charges Q at (-a, 0), -2Q at (0, 0) and Q at (a, 0). Such a combination of charges, with zero net charge and with zero net dipole moment, is called an electric quadrupole. a. Find the electric field along the x acis, for x > a. b. Show that, for x >> a, the electric field varies by x^-4. Find the coefficient.

Homework Equations


\vec{E} = \frac{kQ}_{r^{2}}\hat{r}

Here is the answer I got for part a which was correct.

\vec{E} = kQ\left[\frac{1}_{(x+a)^{2}}} + \frac{1}_{(x-a)^{2}}} - \frac{2}_{x^{2}}}\right]\hat{j}

The Attempt at a Solution



This is what I got for part b:

\vec{E} = 2kQ\left[\frac{1}_{x^{2}}} - \frac{1}_{x^{2}}}\right]\hat{j} = 0

I don't know how to get the book's answer of

\frac{6a^{2}}_{x^{4}}}\hat{j}

You do not want to set:

<br /> \frac{1}{(x+a)^2} \longrightarrow \frac{1}{x^2}<br />
because you'll lose the part you're looking for.

Have you seen the binomial series approximation formula for (1+y)^p when y is small? You can write your quantity \frac{1}{(x+a)^2} (and the other term, too) in that form and then use the formula to get the answer.
 
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