Limits at a real number, using epsilon and delta

In summary, the conversation is about finding a delta for a function f(x) that is greater than or equal to 1. The first step is to find a range for x that is less than or equal to 1, and then use that to find a delta for f(x) that is greater than or equal to 1.
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OK I probably have some dumb questions here but it might be partially due to the lack of examples at my disposal and minimal explanation in my text.
[tex] \lim_{x\to{0}}(x+1)^{3} = 1 [/tex]

[tex]\mid f(x) - L \mid < \epsilon [/tex]
[tex]\mid(x+1)^{3} - 1\mid < \epsilon [/tex]

now I know that delta is as follows:
[tex] 0 < \mid x - a\mid < \delta [/tex]
[tex]0 < \mid x - 0 \mid < \delta [/tex]
as far as i know that i need to pick delta = min{1, ??}. I know that you pick 1 for convention but from my example i' am little stumped on how to get the other delta choice. If anyone knows of some other links to examples of these types of problems please send them along.
 
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Usually you try to find your delta as a function of your epsilon. In this case I'd try to get [itex] \vert (x+1)^3 -1 \vert [/itex] into a form where it was [itex] \vert x-0 \vert [/itex] multiplied by something, then solve for [itex] \vert x-0 \vert [/itex] in terms of [itex] \epsilon [/itex]
Then you've got a relationship between [itex] \delta [/itex] and [itex] \epsilon [/itex]
 
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The basic plan is to factor [tex]|f(x)-L|[/tex] into a bounded part and a part that you can control easily by picking an appropriate [tex]\delta[/tex]. That is get [tex]|f(x)-L|=|x-a||g(x)|[/tex]. You know this will be bounded by [tex]\delta B[/tex], where B is a bound for g(x).

To find this B it's usually necessary to have restricted the values of x first by assuming an upper bound of delta. If your assume [tex]\delta\leq 1[/tex] then you know x is on the interval [tex](a-1,a+1)[/tex], so you can bound g(x) according to this. 1 won't always work, you need to make sure that g(x) is bounded on this restricted interval.

You can then find delta in terms of epsilon and this bound B.

Take a look at http://www.math.toronto.edu/~joel/137/handouts/limits.pdf for some more examples.
 
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ok good hint i think so far:
[tex]\mid(x+1)^{3} - 1\mid < \epsilon [/tex] multiplied out then extracting the factor x:
[tex]\mid x \mid \mid x^{2} + 3x + 1 \mid < \epsilon [/tex]
[tex]\mid x \mid < \frac {\epsilon}{\mid x^{2} + 3x + 1 \mid} [/tex]
now this is in terms of what delta is greater than. At this point I am assuming i use the L =1 for the x obtaining :
[tex] \mid x \mid < \frac {\epsilon}{5} [/tex] thus choosing

[tex] \delta = \min {1, \frac{\epsilon}{5} } [/tex]
 
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Not quite. You need to control [itex]\mid x^{2} + 3x + 1 \mid} [/itex] before you divide [itex] \epsilon [/itex] by it.

This is where the assumption that [itex] \delta <= 1 [/itex] comes in.

Set [itex] \vert x-a \vert < 1 [/itex] and then use that to define a range for x. Use that to define a range for [itex]\mid x^{2} + 3x + 1 \mid} [/itex], then use the maximum value from that range for x.
 

FAQ: Limits at a real number, using epsilon and delta

What is the definition of a limit at a real number using epsilon and delta?

A limit at a real number using epsilon and delta is a mathematical concept used to describe the behavior of a function as its input approaches a specific real number. It involves finding a value of delta (denoted by Δ) such that for any value of epsilon (denoted by ε) greater than 0, the function's output will be within a certain range of the limit.

How do you write the formal definition of a limit at a real number using epsilon and delta?

The formal definition of a limit at a real number using epsilon and delta is: For a function f(x), a real number L, and a real number c, we say that the limit of f(x) as x approaches c is L if for every ε > 0, there exists a Δ > 0 such that |f(x) - L| < ε whenever 0 < |x - c| < Δ.

Why is the concept of limits at a real number using epsilon and delta important in calculus?

Limits at a real number using epsilon and delta are important in calculus because they allow us to make precise statements about the behavior of a function at a specific point. They help us determine whether a function is continuous, and they are essential for finding derivatives and integrals, which are fundamental concepts in calculus.

Can you give an example of using epsilon and delta to find a limit at a real number?

Yes, for example, let's say we want to find the limit of the function f(x) = 2x + 1 as x approaches 3. We can do this by setting ε = 0.01 and solving for Δ such that |(2x + 1) - 7| < 0.01 whenever 0 < |x - 3| < Δ. We can rearrange the equation to get |2x - 6| < 0.01, and by setting Δ = 0.005, we can satisfy this condition for any value of x between 2.995 and 3.005. Therefore, the limit of f(x) as x approaches 3 is 7.

Are there any limitations to using the epsilon and delta method for finding limits at a real number?

There are some limitations to using the epsilon and delta method. For example, it can be challenging to find a specific value for Δ that satisfies the condition for all values of ε. In some cases, the limit may not exist, or the method may not work for more complicated functions. However, in general, the epsilon and delta method is a powerful tool for finding limits at a real number and is widely used in calculus and other areas of mathematics.

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