Limsup(a+b) = limsup(a) + limsup(b)

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In summary, when considering bounded sequences ##\{a_n\}## and ##\{b_n\}##, if we know that ##\displaystyle \limsup_{n\to\infty} (a_n+b_n) \le \limsup_{n\to\infty}a_n + \limsup_{n\to\infty}b_n##, it is not necessarily true that ##\displaystyle \limsup_{n\to\infty} (a_n+b_n) = \limsup_{n\to\infty}a_n + \limsup_{n\to\infty}b_n##. The counterexample is when ##a_n = (-1)^
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Let ##\{a_n\}## and ##\{b_n\}## be bounded sequences. Say that we already know that ##\displaystyle \limsup_{n\to\infty} (a_n+b_n) \le \limsup_{n\to\infty}a_n + \limsup_{n\to\infty}b_n##.

But isn't it also true then that $$\limsup_{n\to\infty} b_n = \limsup_{n\to\infty} ((a_n+b_n) +(- a_n)) \le \limsup_{n\to\infty} (a_n+b_n) + \limsup_{n\to\infty} (-a_n) = \limsup_{n\to\infty} (a_n+b_n) - \limsup_{n\to\infty} a_n,$$ and so ##\limsup_{n\to\infty} b_n + \limsup_{n\to\infty} a_n \le \limsup_{n\to\infty} (a_n+b_n)##. So we conclude that ##\displaystyle \limsup_{n\to\infty} (a_n+b_n) = \limsup_{n\to\infty}a_n + \limsup_{n\to\infty}b_n##. Is something going wrong with this argument? I think in general you need one of the sequences to be convergent for this to be true.
 
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##\limsup_{n \to \infty} (-a_n) \neq - \limsup_{n \to \infty} a_n##

Take ##a_n = (-1)^n##.
 
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##\limsup_{n \to \infty} (-a_n) \neq - \limsup_{n \to \infty} a_n##

Take ##a_n = (-1)^n##.
Ah, I see. But if ##a_n## converges then ##\limsup_{n \to \infty} (-a_n) = - \limsup_{n \to \infty} a_n##.
 
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Mr Davis 97 said:
Ah, I see. But if ##a_n## converges then ##\limsup_{n \to \infty} (-a_n) = - \limsup_{n \to \infty} a_n##.

Correct.
 

FAQ: Limsup(a+b) = limsup(a) + limsup(b)

What does "limsup(a+b) = limsup(a) + limsup(b)" mean?

This equation means that the limit supremum of the sum of two sequences is equal to the sum of the limit supremums of the individual sequences.

What is the definition of limit supremum?

The limit supremum, or limsup, of a sequence is the largest limit point of the sequence. In other words, it is the largest value that the sequence can approach as it tends towards infinity.

Can the equation "limsup(a+b) = limsup(a) + limsup(b)" be applied to any two sequences?

No, this equation can only be applied to sequences that have a finite limit supremum. If one or both sequences have an infinite limit supremum, the equation does not hold.

What is the significance of "limsup(a+b) = limsup(a) + limsup(b)" in mathematics?

This equation is important in the study of sequences and series, as it allows us to find the limit supremum of the sum of two sequences without having to evaluate the individual limit supremums separately.

Are there any similar equations for other types of limits?

Yes, there are similar equations for other types of limits such as limit infimum and limit of a product. These equations also hold under certain conditions and are useful in various mathematical applications.

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