Linear Momentum in GR: Defining & Examples in Minkowski Space

In summary, according to wikipedia, it is not possible to define linear momentum in any curved space. This is because momentum is not defined at all in curved space-time which is not asymptotically Minkowski. This is an example of space-time asymptotically Minkowski.
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Is it possible to define linear momentum in any curved space? According to wikipedia, it's not:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_momentum
...in curved space-time which is not asymptotically Minkowski, momentum isn't defined at all.
Why?
Which is an example of space-time asymptotically Minkowski?
 
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Is it possible to define linear momentum in any curved space? According to wikipedia, it's not:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_momentum

Why?
Which is an example of space-time asymptotically Minkowski?

"Minkowski" is what corresponds to "flat" in GR spacetime it is the geometry of Minkowski's original spacetime of special relativity; the curvature of a Minkowski spacetime is zero. Asymptotically Minkowski means the curvature of spacetime falls off toward zero as you move far enough in any direction.

A hyperbolic space would be an example. It has a region of maximum curvature and as you move farther and farther from that region the curvature gradually tends toward zero.
 
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Things like energy, mass and momentum etc. are quite tricky to define in GR.

Usually we get conserved quantities from a finite number of continuous symmetries (i.e. Noether's theorem). But in GR, we have an infinite number of symmetries -- we can transform to any co-ordinate system we choose and the physical result is still the same. I believe this is where the problem arises from.
 
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Even in classical physics momentum and energy can only be defined with respect to a particular frame of reference. (If an observer on a moving train and one on the ground measure the kinetic energy and momentum of the train, the first observer will find both to be 0, while the second will find answers depending on the train's speed.)

This problem is much compounded in GR because there are no universal frames of reference (exceping in rare special cases). You can still define a "local inertial frame" around a given point; and, given that definition, you can speak about the momentum and energy of an object at the point in that frame. And, the procedure for transforming to a different frame is also quite straightforward. However, once the particle moves to a different point, momentum and energy must be redefined for a local inertial frame about the new point.
 
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lightarrow said:
Is it possible to define linear momentum in any curved space? According to wikipedia, it's not:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_momentum

Why?
Which is an example of space-time asymptotically Minkowski?

You need either an asymptotically flat (or as the wiki says, an asymptotically Minkowskian) space-time or space-translation symmetry before you can define momentum.

If you had a system of masses, alone, in a totally empty universe without a cosmological constant, space-time would automatically be asymptotically flat. And then you could define the momentum of the system.

However, if you have a system with space-translation symmetry, you can also define a conserved momentum for the system. This is handy, because the FRW cosmology that is felt to represent our universe is not asymtotically flat, but it does have space translation symmetry. Therfore we can define a conserved momentum.

As far as "why" goes, look up Noether's theorem (in the wiki & elsewhere).

You might also look at the wiki article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_in_General_Relativity which also talks about some of these issues (it's title is about mass, but it also talks about momentum and energy) and it has some references which talk about Noether's theorem.

FYI: I should probably disclose that I'm the primary author of the above article.
 

FAQ: Linear Momentum in GR: Defining & Examples in Minkowski Space

What is linear momentum in general relativity?

Linear momentum in general relativity is a quantity that describes the motion of an object in Minkowski space. It is defined as the product of an object's mass and its velocity.

How is linear momentum defined in Minkowski space?

In Minkowski space, linear momentum is defined as a 4-vector with four components: (E/c, px, py, pz), where E is the energy of the object, c is the speed of light, and px, py, and pz are the components of the object's momentum in the x, y, and z directions, respectively.

What are some examples of linear momentum in Minkowski space?

Some examples of linear momentum in Minkowski space include the momentum of a moving particle, the momentum of a photon, and the momentum of a system of particles.

How is linear momentum conserved in general relativity?

In general relativity, linear momentum is conserved if there are no external forces acting on the system. This is known as the law of conservation of momentum and is a fundamental principle in physics.

What is the relationship between linear momentum and spacetime curvature in general relativity?

In general relativity, the presence of matter and energy can cause curvature in spacetime, which in turn affects the motion of objects and their linear momentum. This is described by Einstein's field equations, which relate the curvature of spacetime to the distribution of matter and energy.

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