Linear ODE for a fundamental solution set

In summary, the four functions in the set S are not linearly independent, so a linear ODE for this set cannot be found. Using the smaller set $\{\ln 2, \ln x\}$, a linear ODE can be found for this set.
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rishadjb
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Question:
For the interval x > 0 and the function set S = { 3ln(x), ln2, ln(x), ln(5x)}, construct a linear ODE of the lowest order.

My work:

Taking the wronskian for this solution set, I get it as 0. Doesn't that mean that a linear ODE for this set cannot be found?

I'm very confused here, and any help is appreciated. Thanks
 
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rishadjb said:
Question:
For the interval x > 0 and the function set S = { 3ln(x), ln2, ln(x), ln(5x)}, construct a linear ODE of the lowest order.

My work:

Taking the wronskian for this solution set, I get it as 0. Doesn't that mean that a linear ODE for this set cannot be found?

I'm very confused here, and any help is appreciated. Thanks
Notice that the four functions in the set S are not linearly independent. They are all of the form $A + B\ln x$ (where A and B are constants). So for example you could replace S by the smaller set $\{\ln 2, \ln x\}$.
 
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Ok I see, so since the terms are linearly dependant, we need to rewrite the fundamental set? So how do you come to the conclusion that we can use the smaller set of {ln2, ln x}. Is it because these two terms are lin. independent?

Could I use {3lnx, ln2} ?
 
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rishadjb said:
Ok I see, so since the terms are linearly dependant, we need to rewrite the fundamental set? So how do you come to the conclusion that we can use the smaller set of {ln2, ln x}. Is it because these two terms are lin. independent?

Could I use {3lnx, ln2} ?
Yes, Opalg told you that all of those are of the form Aln(x)+ B for some A and B. You could, just as easily write them as A'(3 ln(x))+ B where A'= A/3.

Of your original set, 3ln(x), ln(2), ln(x), and ln(5x), note that ln(2) is a constant 3ln(x) is just 3 times ln(x), and ln(5x)= ln(x)+ ln(5). So all of them are of the form "a multiple of ln(x)" plus a constant. That is Aln(x)+ B.
 
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Question solved, thanks guys :)
 

FAQ: Linear ODE for a fundamental solution set

What is a linear ODE for a fundamental solution set?

A linear ODE (Ordinary Differential Equation) for a fundamental solution set is a type of differential equation that can be solved using a set of fundamental solutions. These solutions are linearly independent, meaning that no single solution can be written as a linear combination of the others. The fundamental solution set is important because it allows us to find a general solution to the differential equation.

How do you find the fundamental solution set for a linear ODE?

The fundamental solution set for a linear ODE can be found by using the method of variation of parameters. This involves finding a set of solutions to the homogeneous equation (the equation without any forcing function) and then using these solutions to find a particular solution to the non-homogeneous equation (the equation with a forcing function). The combination of the homogeneous and particular solutions gives the fundamental solution set.

What is the difference between a fundamental solution set and a general solution?

A fundamental solution set is a set of solutions to a differential equation that can be used to find a general solution. The general solution is the most general form of the solution to the differential equation, which includes all possible solutions. The fundamental solution set is a subset of the general solution, and it is used to find the constants in the general solution.

Why is the fundamental solution set important in solving differential equations?

The fundamental solution set is important because it allows us to find a general solution to a differential equation, which is necessary for many applications in science and engineering. Additionally, the fundamental solution set provides a basis for the solution space, which is important in understanding the behavior of the system described by the differential equation.

Can a linear ODE have more than one fundamental solution set?

No, a linear ODE can only have one fundamental solution set. This is because the fundamental solution set is determined by the coefficients and structure of the differential equation, and it is unique for each equation. However, a linear ODE can have multiple general solutions, depending on the initial conditions and constants in the solution.

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