Manning's coeff to absolute roughness

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In summary, the conversation discusses the equation for expressing absolute roughness in terms of Manning coefficient, with a reference from Webber 1971. The equation is n = k1/6/26, where n is the applicable Manning roughness coefficient and k is the absolute roughness in mm. When applied to a Manning coefficient of 0.011 for an epoxy lined Ductile Iron Pipe, the absolute roughness is calculated to be 0.000001795477 ft. This value is confirmed to be reasonable compared to the roughness of a commercial steel pipe.
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Does anyone have the equation that the absolute roughness is expressed in terms of Manning coefficient, with the reference included?

I have found one from Webber 1971.

n = k1/6/26

where:
n = applicable Manning roughness coefficient,
k = absolute roughness (mm)

Reference :Webber, N.B. (1971) Fluid Mechanics for Civil Engineers. Chapman & Hall.

when I apply this equation to Manning coefficient of 0.011 (epoxy lined Ductile Iron Pipe)

I get an sbsolute roughness (k) = 0.000001795477 ft.

I need some confermation on the value and equation
 
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Danger86514 said:
Does anyone have the equation that the absolute roughness is expressed in terms of Manning coefficient, with the reference included?

I have found one from Webber 1971.

n = k1/6/26

where:
n = applicable Manning roughness coefficient,
k = absolute roughness (mm)

Reference :Webber, N.B. (1971) Fluid Mechanics for Civil Engineers. Chapman & Hall.

when I apply this equation to Manning coefficient of 0.011 (epoxy lined Ductile Iron Pipe)

I get an sbsolute roughness (k) = 0.000001795477 ft.

I need some confermation on the value and equation

The one you have from Webber is the only one I know of. The value you calculated for the roughness (k) seems reasonable. A commercial steel pipe has a roughness of about 0.00015-ft, so I imagine an epoxy lined one would be even less like you have determined.

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It is important to note that the Manning's coefficient and absolute roughness are two separate parameters that are related but not interchangeable. The Manning's coefficient is a dimensionless constant that represents the roughness of a surface, while absolute roughness is a physical quantity that represents the height of the surface irregularities.

The equation provided by Webber (1971) relates the Manning's coefficient to the absolute roughness in terms of millimeters. It is not clear from the provided information what units are being used for the Manning's coefficient of 0.011, but assuming it is in millimeters, the calculated absolute roughness of 0.000001795477 ft seems reasonable.

However, it is important to note that this equation is just one of many empirical relationships that have been developed to estimate the Manning's coefficient based on various factors such as surface material and flow conditions. It is always best to use equations and values from reputable sources and to verify with experimental data when possible.
 

FAQ: Manning's coeff to absolute roughness

What is Manning's coeff to absolute roughness?

Manning's coefficient to absolute roughness is a dimensionless number used in fluid mechanics to characterize the roughness of a surface. It is commonly used in open channel flow calculations, including those for rivers, streams, and pipes.

What is the significance of Manning's coeff to absolute roughness?

Manning's coefficient to absolute roughness is used to calculate the frictional resistance of a surface in a fluid flow. This is important in determining the velocity and flow rate of a fluid, which is essential in designing and managing hydraulic systems.

How is Manning's coeff to absolute roughness calculated?

Manning's coefficient to absolute roughness is calculated by dividing the absolute roughness of a surface by the hydraulic radius of the flow. The hydraulic radius is the cross-sectional area of the flow divided by the wetted perimeter.

What are some common values of Manning's coeff to absolute roughness?

The values of Manning's coefficient to absolute roughness vary depending on the type of surface and the flow conditions. Some common values include 0.011 for smooth concrete, 0.014 for gravel, and 0.04 for natural streams and rivers.

How does Manning's coeff to absolute roughness affect flow velocity?

Manning's coefficient to absolute roughness has a direct impact on the flow velocity of a fluid. A higher coefficient indicates a rougher surface, which increases the frictional resistance and decreases the flow velocity. Conversely, a lower coefficient indicates a smoother surface, which decreases frictional resistance and increases flow velocity.

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