Mapping tensor products into a Clifford algebra

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jv07cs
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Considering a vector space ##W = V\oplus V^*## equipped with quadratic form Q such that we have a clifford algebra ##Cl(W, Q)##. How can I map elements of ##V\otimes V^*## into elements of ##Cl(W, Q)##? What about elements of ##V^* \otimes V##, ##V\otimes V## and ##V^* \otimes V^*## into ##Cl(W, Q)##?
 
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What is your desire?
What is your favorite color?
How fast is a swallow?

Means, what are you aiming to achieve? I like to think of ##V\otimes V^*## as an element of ##\operatorname{End}(V)## given by ##\left(\sum_\rho u_\rho \otimes \overline{v}_\rho\right)(w)=\sum_\rho \overline{v}_\rho(w)\cdot u_\rho\,,## i.e. a matrix. Now you are asking how you can map an endomorphism of ##V## into ##Cl(W,Q).## This looks a bit arbitrary to me.

Let's see whether the realization of ##Cl(W,Q)## as a tensor algebra can help. This would mean to map
$$
V\otimes V^* \stackrel{\varphi}{\longrightarrow} \bigoplus_{n\ge 0}(V\oplus V^*)^{\otimes n} /\underbrace{\bigl\langle (u+\overline{v})+(\overline{v}+u)+Q(u,\overline{v}) \bigr\rangle }_{=\mathcal{I}}.
$$
This view has two advantages: The ideal ##\mathcal{I}## should be invariant under ##\varphi##, and we can see the arbitrariness better since ##V\otimes V^*## has many occurrences on the right and you can simply choose one of them.

Another method would be the following:
Consider ##V## and ##V^*## as elements of ##Cl(W,Q)## via the embeddings ## u\longmapsto (u+0) \cdot 1_{Cl}## and ##\overline{v}\longmapsto (0+\overline{v})\cdot 1_{Cl}## and the tensor product as multiplication in ##Cl(W,Q).## Then
$$
\varphi \left(\sum_\rho u_\rho\otimes \overline{v}_\rho\right)=\sum_\rho \left( \left(u_\rho+0) \cdot 1_{Cl}\right)\cdot \left((0+\overline{v}_\rho)\cdot 1_{Cl}\right)\right)
$$
In this case, the arbitrariness is hidden in the embedding.

My original question stands: what is your desire?
 
  • #3
fresh_42 said:
What is your desire?
What is your favorite color?
How fast is a swallow?

Means, what are you aiming to achieve? I like to think of ##V\otimes V^*## as an element of ##\operatorname{End}(V)## given by ##\left(\sum_\rho u_\rho \otimes \overline{v}_\rho\right)(w)=\sum_\rho \overline{v}_\rho(w)\cdot u_\rho\,,## i.e. a matrix. Now you are asking how you can map an endomorphism of ##V## into ##Cl(W,Q).## This looks a bit arbitrary to me.

Let's see whether the realization of ##Cl(W,Q)## as a tensor algebra can help. This would mean to map
$$
V\otimes V^* \stackrel{\varphi}{\longrightarrow} \bigoplus_{n\ge 0}(V\oplus V^*)^{\otimes n} /\underbrace{\bigl\langle (u+\overline{v})+(\overline{v}+u)+Q(u,\overline{v}) \bigr\rangle }_{=\mathcal{I}}.
$$
This view has two advantages: The ideal ##\mathcal{I}## should be invariant under ##\varphi##, and we can see the arbitrariness better since ##V\otimes V^*## has many occurrences on the right and you can simply choose one of them.

Another method would be the following:
Consider ##V## and ##V^*## as elements of ##Cl(W,Q)## via the embeddings ## u\longmapsto (u+0) \cdot 1_{Cl}## and ##\overline{v}\longmapsto (0+\overline{v})\cdot 1_{Cl}## and the tensor product as multiplication in ##Cl(W,Q).## Then
$$
\varphi \left(\sum_\rho u_\rho\otimes \overline{v}_\rho\right)=\sum_\rho \left( \left(u_\rho+0) \cdot 1_{Cl}\right)\cdot \left((0+\overline{v}_\rho)\cdot 1_{Cl}\right)\right)
$$
In this case, the arbitrariness is hidden in the embedding.

My original question stands: what is your desire?
My original question was very unspecific indeed. I want to investigate endomorphisms inside ##Cl(W, Q)## induced by endomorphisms in ##V## and ##V^*##.

Taking ##T = T_i^j e_j \otimes e^i \in End(V)##, for example. I want to view this ##T## as an element of ##Cl(W, Q)##, let's denote it by ##\phi(T)## (where ##\phi## is the clifford map), so that I can study ##\phi(Tv)## (where ##Tv \equiv (Tv, 0) \in W##) as some relation between ##\phi(T)## and ##\phi(v)##.

From your reply, if I understood correctly, there is an arbitrariness in the choice of ##\phi(T)##. My question is what would I have to verify to ensure that my choice of ##\phi(T)## is valid? How could I verify if, for example, ##\phi(T) = T_i^j \phi(e_j)\phi(e^i)## and ##\phi(S) = T^j_i\phi(e^i)\phi(e_j)## (where ##S = T^j_i e^i\otimes e_j##, notice the change in the ordering of the tensor product) are valid choices?
 
  • #4
jv07cs said:
My original question was very unspecific indeed. I want to investigate endomorphisms inside ##Cl(W, Q)## induced by endomorphisms in ##V## and ##V^*##.

Taking ##T = T_i^j e_j \otimes e^i \in End(V)##, for example. I want to view this ##T## as an element of ##Cl(W, Q)##, let's denote it by ##\phi(T)## (where ##\phi## is the clifford map), so that I can study ##\phi(Tv)## (where ##Tv \equiv (Tv, 0) \in W##) as some relation between ##\phi(T)## and ##\phi(v)##.

What do you mean by Clifford map? The quotient of the tensor algebra by the ideal ##\mathcal{I}## I mentioned, or your proposed map? I don't think the ordering plays a role as long as ##V## and ##V^*## are distinguishable. I wouldn't use ##V\cong V^*## anywhere as it creates a new kind of arbitrariness since this isomorphism isn't natural.

jv07cs said:
From your reply, if I understood correctly, there is an arbitrariness in the choice of ##\phi(T)##. My question is what would I have to verify to ensure that my choice of ##\phi(T)## is valid? How could I verify if, for example, ##\phi(T) = T_i^j \phi(e_j)\phi(e^i)## and ##\phi(S) = T^j_i\phi(e^i)\phi(e_j)## (where ##S = T^j_i e^i\otimes e_j##, notice the change in the ordering of the tensor product) are valid choices?
Bilinearity is usually achieved per definition: you define the map on dyads ##u\otimes \overline{v}## and extend it bilinearly. You have a tiny part ##V\otimes V^*## of the tensor algebra of ##W.## You can embed it (in many ways) and build the quotient by ##\mathcal{I}## afterward.

Since ##V## and ##V^*## are different, you won't have a diagonal ##v\otimes v## that had to be mapped to ##-Q(v)\cdot 1_{Cl}.## You can simply use the multiplication in the Clifford algebra:
$$
u\otimes \overline{v}\longmapsto (u+0) \cdot_{Cl} (0+\overline{v})\,.
$$
 
  • #5
fresh_42 said:
What do you mean by Clifford map? The quotient of the tensor algebra by the ideal I I mentioned, or your proposed map?
I am referring to the following definition of a clifford algebra:
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But I believe it is equivalent to the quotient algebra definition. My understanding of clifford algebras is quite basic, I hadn't really studied its definition as a quotient algebra, but, if I understood correctly, the equivalence classes satisfy ##[w\otimes w] = [Q(w)] \in Cl(W,Q) = T(V)/\mathcal{I}##, then I represent this as

$$w\cdot_{Cl} w = Q(w)\cdot_{Cl} 1_{Cl}$$

Or, equivalently (I think), using the clifford mapping ##\phi##

$$\phi(w)\cdot_{Cl} \phi(w) = Q(w)\cdot_{Cl} 1_{Cl}$$

Is this correct?
fresh_42 said:
I wouldn't use V≅V∗ anywhere as it creates a new kind of arbitrariness since this isomorphism isn't natural.
Well, I could define a natural isomorphims by introducing a metric structure on ##V##. Don't know if that would make the ordering significant.

fresh_42 said:
Bilinearity is usually achieved per definition: you define the map on dyads u⊗v― and extend it bilinearly. You have a tiny part V⊗V∗ of the tensor algebra of W. You can embed it (in many ways) and build the quotient by I afterward.
Would it then suffice to simply define a valid homomorphism between ##End(V)## and ##Cl(W, Q)##?
 
  • #6
jv07cs said:
Is this correct?
Yes, except that it should be ##w\cdot_{Cl} w=-Q(w)\cdot 1_{Cl}.## We immitate the imaginary unit!
jv07cs said:
Well, I could define a natural isomorphims by introducing a metric structure on ##V##. Don't know if that would make the ordering significant.
I think that distinction is important, not so much the order. E.g., if we consider mappings ##V\otimes V \rightarrow Cl(V,Q)\subseteq Cl(W,Q)## then ##v\otimes v## must map to ##-Q(v)\cdot 1_{Cl}## which may restrict the possible images for ##v,## i.e. we have another condition that has to be fulfilled. This is probably no problem but we have to keep it in mind. We map the diagonal on ##\mathbb{R}\cdot 1_{Cl}.## There is no correspondence in a domain ##V\otimes V^*.##

jv07cs said:
Would it then suffice to simply define a valid homomorphism between ##End(V)## and ##Cl(W, Q)##?
That is my understanding, yes.
 
  • #7
fresh_42 said:
Yes, except that it should be ##w\cdot_{Cl} w=-Q(w)\cdot 1_{Cl}.## We immitate the imaginary unit!

I think that distinction is important, not so much the order. E.g., if we consider mappings ##V\otimes V \rightarrow Cl(V,Q)\subseteq Cl(W,Q)## then ##v\otimes v## must map to ##-Q(v)\cdot 1_{Cl}## which may restrict the possible images for ##v,## i.e. we have another condition that has to be fulfilled. This is probably no problem but we have to keep it in mind. We map the diagonal on ##\mathbb{R}\cdot 1_{Cl}.## There is no correspondence in a domain ##V\otimes V^*.##


That is my understanding, yes.
Got it. Just one last quick question: If I consider ##B## to be the bilinear form associated with the quadratic form ##Q## (so ##Q(w) := B(w,w)##). The ideal could be expressed as

$$\mathcal{I} = \langle w\otimes w' + w'\otimes w - 2B(w,w')\rangle$$

And ##e_j\otimes e^i## would be equivalent to ##2B(e_j, e^i) - e^i\otimes e_j##, so

$$[e_j\otimes e^i] = [2B(e_j, e^i) - e^i\otimes e_j] \implies e_j\cdot_{Cl} e^i = 2B(e_j, e^i)\cdot_{Cl} 1_{Cl} - e^i\cdot_{Cl} e_j$$

which is the fundamental defining relation of the clifford algebra with ##w = e_j## and ##w' = e^i##. Would it correct to say that this implies that ##T = T_i^j e_j\otimes e^i## is mapped to ##T_i^j e_j\cdot_{Cl} e^i##?
 
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jv07cs said:
Got it. Just one last quick question: If I consider ##B## to be the bilinear form associated with the quadratic form ##Q## (so ##Q(w) := B(w,w)##). The ideal could be expressed as

$$\mathcal{I} = \langle w\otimes w' + w'\otimes w - 2B(w,w')\rangle$$

I haven't checked. My book uses ##Q(w+w')=Q(w)+Q(w')+2B(w,w').## Unfortunately, it doesn't mention the definition as a quotient of a tensor algebra and I'm not certain that Wikipedia can be trusted.

If we assume, that we can trust it, then the ideal is generated by ##w\otimes w - Q(w)1.## Let's see.
\begin{align*}
(w+w') \otimes (w'+w) - Q(w+w')1&=w\otimes w' +w'\otimes w +Q(w)1+Q(w')1-Q(w+w')1\\&=w\otimes w' +w'\otimes w -2B(w,w')
\end{align*}
(Sorry for thinking loud.)
jv07cs said:
And ##e_j\otimes e^i## would be equivalent to ##2B(e_j, e^i) - e^i\otimes e_j##, so

$$[e_j\otimes e^i] = [2B(e_j, e^i) - e^i\otimes e_j] \implies e_j\cdot_{Cl} e^i = 2B(e_j, e^i)\cdot_{Cl} 1_{Cl} - e^i\cdot_{Cl} e_j$$

which is the fundamental defining relation of the clifford algebra with ##w = e_j## and ##w' = e^i##. Would it correct to say that this implies that ##T = T_i^j e_j\otimes e^i## is mapped to ##T_i^j e_j\cdot_{Cl} e^i##?
Not sure I can follow your calculations here, but I'd answer this question with a yes. That is what I would try first, the quotient map from the tensor algebra:
$$
V\otimes V^* \subseteq \mathcal{T}(W) \twoheadrightarrow Cl(W,Q)
$$
O'Meara has an interesting definition of a Clifford algebra which might be of interest here:

We call ##Cl(W,Q)## a Clifford algebra over the quadratic space ##(W,Q)## if it satisfies the following universal mapping property: given any algebra ##A## compatible with ##W,## i.e. ##W\subseteq A## and ##w^2=Q(w)\cdot 1_A##, there is exactly one algebra homomorphism ##\varphi\, : \,Cl(W,Q)\longrightarrow A## such that ##\varphi(w)=w## for all ##w\in W.##

Unfortunately, ##V\otimes V^* \not\subseteq W=V\oplus V^*## and you are trying to find a homomorphism from ##A=\operatorname{End}(V)## into ##Cl(W,Q)## instead of the other way around. This contrast to the universal property creates the arbitrariness I have spoken about. That's why I would take the detour by the tensor algebra ##\mathcal{T}(W)=\mathcal{T}(V\oplus V^*).## But there is more than one way to embed ##\operatorname{End}(V) \hookrightarrow \mathcal{T}(W).##
 

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