Marcus Right's question at Yahoo Answers regarding a first order homogeneus ODE

In summary, the conversation discusses how to rewrite and separate a given first order homogeneous differential equation and solve it using substitution and integration. The final solution is given implicitly as y^2 = (C-x^4)/x^2. The poster also invites others to post their differential equation questions in the forum for help.
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Here is the question:

Homogenous Differential Help with equation?

dy/dx = (-2*x^2-y^2)/(x*y)

I can see it is of homogenous form dy/dx = F(y/x)

how do I rewrite the d.e in terms of v and x
then
how do I separate it to the form x(dx) = v (dv)
and finally how do I solve it if it is indeed solvable.

I'm confused at the rewriting and separation steps :/

Any help is appreciated :)

Here is a link to the question:

Homogenous Differential Help with equation? - Yahoo! Answers

I have posted a link there to this topic so the OP can find my response.
 
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Hello Marcus Right,

We are given the first order ODE:

\(\displaystyle \frac{dy}{dx}=-\frac{2x^2+y^2}{xy}=-\frac{2+\left(\frac{y}{x} \right)^2}{\frac{y}{x}}\)

So, we see, it is indeed a homogeneous equation. If we make the substitution:

\(\displaystyle v=\frac{y}{x}\implies y=vx\)

Now, differentiating with respect to $x$, we find:

\(\displaystyle \frac{dy}{dx}=v+x\frac{dv}{dx}\)

and so, making the substitutions, we have:

\(\displaystyle v+x\frac{dv}{dx}=-\frac{2+v^2}{v}\)

Subtract through by $v$:

\(\displaystyle x\frac{dv}{dx}=-\frac{2+v^2}{v}-v=-\frac{2(1+v^2)}{v}\)

Separate variables and integrate:

\(\displaystyle -\int \frac{v}{2(1+v^2)}\,dv=\int\frac{1}{x}\,dx\)

\(\displaystyle -\frac{1}{4}\ln|1+v^2|=\ln|Cx|\)

\(\displaystyle 1+v^2=\frac{C}{x^4}\)

Subtract through by 1 and back substitute for $v$:

\(\displaystyle \frac{y^2}{x^2}=\frac{C-x^4}{x^4}\)

The solution is the given implicitly by:

\(\displaystyle y^2=\frac{C-x^4}{x^2}\)

To Marcus Right and any other guests viewing this topic, I invite and encourage you to post other differential equation questions here in our http://www.mathhelpboards.com/f17/ forum.

Best Regards,

Mark.
 

FAQ: Marcus Right's question at Yahoo Answers regarding a first order homogeneus ODE

What is a first order homogeneous ODE?

A first order homogeneous ODE (ordinary differential equation) is an equation that relates a function and its derivatives, where all terms are of the same degree or order. It does not contain any explicit independent variable.

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Marcus Right's question at Yahoo Answers highlights the importance of understanding and solving first order homogeneous ODEs in the field of mathematics and science. It also demonstrates the value of seeking help and clarification from others in order to fully understand a concept.

What are some common methods for solving first order homogeneous ODEs?

The most common methods for solving first order homogeneous ODEs include separation of variables, integrating factors, and using substitution techniques such as u-substitution or power series solutions.

What is the difference between a homogeneous and non-homogeneous ODE?

A homogeneous ODE only contains terms with the same degree or order, while a non-homogeneous ODE contains additional terms with different degrees or orders. This difference affects the methods used to solve the equation.

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First order homogeneous ODEs can be used to model various physical phenomena such as population growth, chemical reactions, and electrical circuits. By understanding and solving these equations, scientists and engineers are able to make predictions and solve real-world problems.

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