Mass a helium balloon can overcome

In summary: Archimedes at all. In summary, the balloon cannot lift mass at sea level where the density of air is 1.22 kg / m^3. The pressure inside the balloon and outside are not supposed to be equal, and using the ideal gas equation is not the solution.
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StheevilH
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Homework Statement



The question states "What mass can the balloon lift at sea level where the density of air is 1.22 kg / m^3"..

Extra information given are, use of ideal gas equation is needed,

which is pV = nRT

where p is pressure, V is volume, n is number of moles, R is constant (R = 0.082057 L atm K^-1 mol^-1) and T being temperature in Kelvin (297 Kelvin = 25 degrees Celcius)

The balloon has radius of 48m and it is perfect spherical..

Sea level is defined to be 1 atm and 25 degrees Celcius.





The Attempt at a Solution



I tried to rearrange the ideal gas equation so I can get volume in one side and the rest on the other. however, when I do that, number of moles, n, cannot be found.

When I tried to approach from other direction, using pressure = force / area,

Assuming the pressure inside the balloon and outside are equal,

force is found, then used Newton's second law to find mass.

That did not turn out to be the answer...




Is there a step you see that is going wrong?

Lecturer told me that I need to make use of ideal gas equation... that's the key equation to solve this problem apprently...

but I'm not sure where to start...

does anybody see how to start other than the methods I used?

Thank you
 
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StheevilH said:
I tried to rearrange the ideal gas equation so I can get volume in one side and the rest on the other. however, when I do that, number of moles, n, cannot be found.
Rearrange the equation to solve for n, not for volume. The volume is given. (Or at least easily calculated.)
 
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oh... after rearranging to solve for n,

subsituting n = m / M

and M can be found on the web (yea... periodic table... should have one... somewhere...)

and substitude the values in?



I also am curious that the assumption I made,

"the pressure inside the balloon equals the pressure outside the balloon"

is that a reasonable assumption I can make??

if that is not, I don't see a way out of this..

Thank you :)
 
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Assumption about pressures being identical is quite good.

Do you know Archimedes principle?
 
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Borek said:
Assumption about pressures being identical is quite good.

Do you know Archimedes principle?


Um.. I know of Archimedes... and his principle...

but I do not know that principle in depth..

but is that principle why it is fair to assume that

the identical pressures being applied inside out?
 
  • #6
No, Archimedes principle is necessary to calculate buoyancy of the balloon.
 
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Oh...

Thanks Borek :)

worked it out
 

FAQ: Mass a helium balloon can overcome

1. How much mass can a helium balloon overcome?

A helium balloon can overcome a mass that is equal to or less than its own weight. This is because the upward force exerted by the helium gas inside the balloon is equal to the weight of the displaced air.

2. Can a helium balloon overcome the weight of a human?

It is possible for a helium balloon to overcome the weight of a human, depending on the size and strength of the balloon. However, it is not recommended to use a balloon as a means of lifting a person as it can be dangerous and unpredictable.

3. Does the temperature affect the mass a helium balloon can overcome?

Yes, the temperature can affect the mass a helium balloon can overcome. As the temperature increases, the helium gas inside the balloon expands and becomes less dense, reducing its ability to lift a heavier mass.

4. How does the size of a helium balloon affect its ability to overcome mass?

The size of a helium balloon plays a significant role in its ability to overcome mass. A larger balloon has a greater volume of helium gas, resulting in a greater upward force and the ability to lift a heavier mass.

5. Can a helium balloon overcome the weight of an object in water?

No, a helium balloon cannot overcome the weight of an object in water. This is because the density of water is much greater than that of air, making it difficult for the balloon to displace enough water to create an upward force.

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